Open Stack

 ---- On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 11:32:32 -0600 Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org> wrote ----
 > Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
 > > [...] 
 > > Yes, those are the inconsistency we currently have in the Skyline project, but that is not what they will stick to. In Yoga PTG[1], the skyline team iterates through all these points and plans to > improve those and be consistent with the other OpenStack projects. 
 > They said they will> work on packaging, PTI, using Oslo code etc.
 > Ultimately there is a chicken and egg situation there -- they need to 
 > work on making it more like OpenStack, but it's difficult to justify the 
 > time to work on this until it actually is accepted as an OpenStack project.
 > 
 > We should communicate expectations clearly, make sure that promises are 
 > made, and then there is a leap of faith. But IMHO it is a very small 
 > leap as the TC can still control if it should be included in the next 
 > release, and the TC can also remove the project team if it never gets 
 > where it needs to be.
 > 
 > > Boxiang Zhu mentioned the same in the governance patch also[2]. 
 > >
 > > If they deny moving Skyline towards the OpenStack way of packing, testing, using Oslo, etc., we should consider whether to reject the OpenStack official project or modify our new
 > > project application criteria. But this is not the case, and they agree to improve all those things.
 > > 
 > > Now we have more clear direction from them in the governance patch also, so I feel this is good
 > > to go as an official project, and while they will be in OpenStack, we all can help them to
 > > improve the things in OpenStack way.
 > 
 > I agree. Expectations have been clearly communicated. It's time for us 
 > to give them a good chance to meet those.

Indeed.

Also, I think we are making assumptions too early (I mentioned in this thread), if Skyline team
deny doing OpenStack way then it is better to discuss all these points otherwise, we should just wait
for them to improve the things and even better is that we (who need this project or think it is an interested one)
should be part of their team and improve things.

-gmann

 > 
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 > Thierry Carrez (ttx)
 > 
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