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On 5/8/20 7:58 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2020-05-08 18:54:29 +0200 (+0200), Thomas Goirand wrote:
> [...]
>> I don't agree with this decision. Debian Buster is still with
>> puppet 5, and puppet 6 hasn't even been uploaded to Unstable yet.
>>
>> How can I make you change your mind?
> 
> My attempt at reading the tea leaves Puppet calls their version
> support matrix indicates that Puppet 5.x enters "extended support"
> this month and reaches EOL in November. OpenStack Victoria is
> scheduled to release in October, so I guess it's a question of
> whether the Puppet OpenStack team wants the burden of spending a
> cycle targeting support for a Puppet version which will be EOL the
> month after the release (especially given deployment projects
> usually release as much as a month after the coordinated release
> already).

I don't see how this can be a burden. It's not as if the language
changed that much and if there was major incompatibilities.

Also, even if Puppet upstream is moving, Puppet 5 will stay on Debian
Buster for the life of stable, so there it will still be supported.

> Debian Bullseye will probably have to release with Puppet >= 6, so
> hopefully it'll be in buster-backports soon after it enters testing,
> but it would be good to find out from Debian's Puppet package
> maintainers what their plans are. It looks like Puppet 6.x has been
> around for over a year now, hopefully it's at least on their radar.

The puppet packaging "team" is understaffed. All of the work is made by
Apollon Oikonomopoulos without much help. If he needs help, I'll see how
I can help him. Though indeed, we need to know what the plans are.
Packaging puppet 6 is far from easy: it involves a lot of new stuff.

Until we know, would very much prefer if we put this decision on hold.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)