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On 20-02-05 16:38:26, Matthew Treinish wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 10:46:30AM -0600, Matthew Thode wrote:
> > On 20-02-05 10:17:18, Witek Bedyk wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > we're using ujson in Monasca for serialization all over the place. While
> > > changing it to any other alternative is probably a drop-in replacement, we
> > > have in the past chosen to use ujson because of better performance. It is of
> > > great importance, in particular in persister. Current alternatives include
> > > orjson [1] and rapidjson [2]. We're going to measure which of them works
> > > best for our use case and how much faster they are compared to standard
> > > library module.
> > > 
> > > Assuming there is a significant performance benefit, is there any preference
> > > from requirements team which one to include in global requirements? I
> > > haven't seen any distro packages for any of them.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://pypi.org/project/orjson/
> > > [2] https://pypi.org/project/python-rapidjson/
> > > 
> > > Best greetings
> > > Witek
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 1/31/20 9:34 AM, Radosław Piliszek wrote:
> > > > This is a spinoff discussion of [1] to attract more people.
> > > > 
> > > > As the subject goes, the situation of ujson is bad. Still, monasca and
> > > > gnocchi (both server and client) seem to be using it which may break
> > > > depending on compiler.
> > > > The original issue is that the released version of ujson is in
> > > > non-spec-conforming C which may break randomly based on used compiler
> > > > and linker.
> > > > There has been no release of ujson for more than 4 years.
> > > > 
> > > > Based on general project activity, Monasca is probably able to fix it
> > > > but Gnocchi not so surely...
> > > > 
> > > > [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-January/thread.html
> > > > 
> > > > -yoctozepto
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > orjson supports CPython 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, and 3.9. It distributes wheels
> > for Linux, macOS, and Windows. The manylinux1 wheel differs from PEP 513
> > in requiring glibc 2.18, released 2013, or later. orjson does not
> > support PyPy.
> > 
> > Given the above (I think we still need to support py35 at least) I'm not
> > sure we can use it.  Though it is my preferred other than that...
> > (faster than ujson, more updates (last release yesterday), etc)
> 
> It's also probably worth looking at the thread on this from August [1]
> discussing potentially using orjson. While they've added sdists since that
> original discussion (because of the pyo3-pack support being added) building
> it locally requires having rust nightly installed. This means for anyone on
> a non-x86_64 platform (including i686) will need to have rust nightly
> installed to pip install a package. Not that it's a super big burden, rustup
> makes it pretty easy to do, but it's a pretty uncommon thing for most people.
> But, I think that combined with no py35 support probably makes it a difficult
> thing to add to g-r. 
> 
> [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008849.html
> 
> -Matthew Treinish

Forgot about that, does it still need nightly though?  I'd hope that it
doesn't but wouldn't be surprised if it does.  Arch support is important
though, some jobs execute on ppc64 and arm64 as well iirc.

-- 
Matthew Thode
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