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On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:50:21AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
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> > > > > What I care about is that we have a *standard* userspace API for
> > > > > performing device compatibility checking / state migration, for use by
> > > > > QEMU/libvirt/ OpenStack, such that we can write code without countless
> > > > > vendor specific code paths.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is vendor specific stuff on the side, that's fine as we can
> > > > > ignore that, but the core functionality for device compat / migration
> > > > > needs to be standardized.  
> > > > 
> > > > To summarize:
> > > > - choose one of sysfs or devlink
> > > > - have a common interface, with a standardized way to add
> > > >   vendor-specific attributes
> > > > ?  
> > > 
> > > Please refer to my previous email which has more example and details.  
> > hi Parav,
> > the example is based on a new vdpa tool running over netlink, not based
> > on devlink, right?
> > For vfio migration compatibility, we have to deal with both mdev and physical
> > pci devices, I don't think it's a good idea to write a new tool for it, given
> > we are able to retrieve the same info from sysfs and there's already an
> > mdevctl from Alex (https://github.com/mdevctl/mdevctl).
> > 
> > hi All,
> > could we decide that sysfs is the interface that every VFIO vendor driver
> > needs to provide in order to support vfio live migration, otherwise the
> > userspace management tool would not list the device into the compatible
> > list?
> > 
> > if that's true, let's move to the standardizing of the sysfs interface.
> > (1) content
> > common part: (must)
> >    - software_version: (in major.minor.bugfix scheme)
> >    - device_api: vfio-pci or vfio-ccw ...
> >    - type: mdev type for mdev device or
> >            a signature for physical device which is a counterpart for
> > 	   mdev type.
> > 
> > device api specific part: (must)
> >   - pci id: pci id of mdev parent device or pci id of physical pci
> >     device (device_api is vfio-pci)
> 
> As noted previously, the parent PCI ID should not matter for an mdev
> device, if a vendor has a dependency on matching the parent device PCI
> ID, that's a vendor specific restriction.  An mdev device can also
> expose a vfio-pci device API without the parent device being PCI.  For
> a physical PCI device, shouldn't the PCI ID be encompassed in the
> signature?  Thanks,
> 
you are right. I need to put the PCI ID as a vendor specific field.
I didn't do that because I wanted all fields in vendor specific to be
configurable by management tools, so they can configure the target device
according to the value of a vendor specific field even they don't know
the meaning of the field.
But maybe they can just ignore the field when they can't find a matching
writable field to configure the target.

Thanks
Yan


> >   - subchannel_type (device_api is vfio-ccw) 
> >  
> > vendor driver specific part: (optional)
> >   - aggregator
> >   - chpid_type
> >   - remote_url
> > 
> > NOTE: vendors are free to add attributes in this part with a
> > restriction that this attribute is able to be configured with the same
> > name in sysfs too. e.g.
> > for aggregator, there must be a sysfs attribute in device node
> > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/882cc4da-dede-11e7-9180-078a62063ab1/intel_vgpu/aggregator,
> > so that the userspace tool is able to configure the target device
> > according to source device's aggregator attribute.
> > 
> > 
> > (2) where and structure
> > proposal 1:
> > |- [path to device]
> >   |--- migration
> >   |     |--- self
> >   |     |    |-software_version
> >   |     |    |-device_api
> >   |     |    |-type
> >   |     |    |-[pci_id or subchannel_type]
> >   |     |    |-<aggregator or chpid_type>
> >   |     |--- compatible
> >   |     |    |-software_version
> >   |     |    |-device_api
> >   |     |    |-type
> >   |     |    |-[pci_id or subchannel_type]
> >   |     |    |-<aggregator or chpid_type>
> > multiple compatible is allowed.
> > attributes should be ASCII text files, preferably with only one value
> > per file.
> > 
> > 
> > proposal 2: use bin_attribute.
> > |- [path to device]
> >   |--- migration
> >   |     |--- self
> >   |     |--- compatible
> > 
> > so we can continue use multiline format. e.g.
> > cat compatible
> >   software_version=0.1.0
> >   device_api=vfio_pci
> >   type=i915-GVTg_V5_{val1:int:1,2,4,8}
> >   pci_id=80865963
> >   aggregator={val1}/2
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Yan
> > 
>