[tc] [ironic] Promoting ironic to a top-level opendev project?

Tom Barron tpb at dyncloud.net
Fri Apr 3 11:59:26 UTC 2020

On 03/04/20 09:30 +0200, Jean-Philippe Evrard wrote:
>On Thu, 2020-04-02 at 12:38 +0200, Dmitry Tantsur wrote:
> (snipped) I'm referring to a very narrow sense of Nova+company. I.e.
>> a solution for providing virtual machines booting from virtual
>> volumes on virtual networks. Ironic does not clearly fit there, nor
>> does, say, Zuul.
>Got it. That's not my understanding of what OpenStack is, but I concede
>that I might have a different view than most.

+1000 and I hope that we're all moving beyond this narrow 
understanding of what OpenStack is.

I think of myself as working on OpenStack because I work on 
self-service storage cloud  infrastructure with hard multi-tenant 
separatiion in a community committed to a design and development 
process committed to The Four Opens [1].  None of that requires that 
the consumers of this self-service storage infrastructure be virtual 
machines booting from virtual volumes on virtual networks.  Sure, Nova 
VMs consume Manila shares.  But so do bare metal machines and 
container workloads (via CSI plugins) themselves running on VMs and 
running on bare metal, where the hosts theselves may or may not be 
part of an OpenStack cloud.

It would be interesting to see the question at hand about Ironic 
framed in the context of the recent OpenStack Technical Vision [2].  
Is there an Ironic Vision that does not really align with it?

-- Tom Barron

[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/opens.html

[2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/technical-vision.html

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