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Hi all,

We (from ZTE) also have a 5 people team to develop with Ceilometer/Aodh in
our cloud production.
We are also happen to support telemetry community when it needs help.


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:22 PM Julien Danjou <julien at danjou.info> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 19 2019, Trinh Nguyen wrote:
>
> Thanks Trinh for your response. This sounds like a great opportunity to
> bring new blood to the Telemetry project.
>
> > Hi Julien, Doug, and others,
> >
> > Thanks for your comments. Your concerns make a lot of sense. I just have
> a
> > couple of thoughts on this.
> >
> > For envisioning Telemetry future, I do need help from existing
> contributors
> > and users. The reasons for me to volunteer are I believe Ceilometer/Aodh
> is
> > still critical for OpenStack and they're embedded in many of other
> projects
> > that I'm working on (Fenix, Tacker, etc.). Also, I wouldn't do this
> without
> > Lingxian and his team expertise. Lingxian could be the great PTL but he's
> > too busy with the other two projects (Qinling and Trove) so I want to
> give
> > him a hand.
> >
> > I can see my role as the PTL (just like Searchlight which I never touch
> > before becoming its PTL) is a contact point and a coordinator that help
> to
> > push Telemetry toward common goals that the team agreed. Moreover, I do
> > believe in PTL's main job is helping and encouraging potential
> > contributors. So my main goal for Telemetry in Train is to sustain the
> > project with a strong base of contributors and a healthy community until
> I
> > can find a replacement.
> >
> > Bests,
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:52 AM Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch> wrote:
> >
> >> It would be an interesting forum topic for the upcoming Denver summit to
> >> understand where we are with Telemetry and potential approaches for the
> >> future (Is the Telemetry project the way forward? Is Monasca an
> potential
> >> replacement? Are there alternative approaches which the community
> should be
> >> considering?, ...)
> >>
> >> It's not clear to me what we should be recommending for a new cloud
> >> deployment as regards this functional area.
> >>
> >> Tim
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
> >> Date: Monday, 18 March 2019 at 17:06
> >> To: Lingxian Kong <anlin.kong at gmail.com>, Mohammed Naser <
> >> mnaser at vexxhost.com>
> >> Cc: Julien Danjou <julien at danjou.info>, Trinh Nguyen <
> >> dangtrinhnt at gmail.com>, "openstack-discuss at lists.openstack.org" <
> >> openstack-discuss at lists.openstack.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [telemetry][ptl][volunteer][tc] Telemetry PTL for Train
> >>
> >>     Lingxian Kong <anlin.kong at gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>     > I was supposed to volunteer myself being Ceilometer PTL because we
> >> have
> >>     > also deployed Ceilometer in production. I haven't contributed
> >> Ceilometer
> >>     > for several dev cycles but I'm familiar with Ceilometer code (and
> >> Aodh as
> >>     > well), and I am an active contributor for OpenStack for 6 years.
> >>     >
> >>     > Trinh chatted with me in IRC for the same interest in Ceilometer
> as
> >> they
> >>     > are also using Ceilometer and Aodh in production. I'm very happy
> he
> >> could
> >>     > help because maybe I'll be too busy with maintaining two other
> >> projects. I
> >>     > (and other developers in our company) can definitely help if
> needed.
> >>     >
> >>     > Personally, I think being a PTL not only means the one who has
> >> contributed
> >>     > a lot, but also means the one who is willing to help the project
> >> developers
> >>     > and users, and doing the common tasks in order to coordinate with
> >> the whole
> >>     > community, most importantly, the one who is the real user of a
> >>     > project.
> >>
> >>     I agree, although it is a little concerning that the contributor
> base
> >>     for the project is so small.
> >>
> >>     I am excited to have new contributors pick the project up, so thank
> you
> >>     for volunteering!
> >>
> >>     Doug
> >>
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > Cheers,
> >>     > Lingxian Kong
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:31 AM Mohammed Naser <
> mnaser at vexxhost.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>     >
> >>     >> FWIW: Trinh has done an excellent job with Searchlight, so I
> think
> >> the
> >>     >> project would be in great hands.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>     >>
> >>     >> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Doug Hellmann <
> >> doug at doughellmann.com>
> >>     >> wrote:
> >>     >> >
> >>     >> > Julien Danjou <julien at danjou.info> writes:
> >>     >> >
> >>     >> >> On Sun, Mar 17 2019, Trinh Nguyen wrote:
> >>     >> >>
> >>     >> >> Hi Trinh,
> >>     >> >>
> >>     >> >>> Because no one want to nominate for the PTL in Train [1],
> >> Telemetry has
> >>     >> >>> been marked as a leaderless project and may be removed of
> >> OpenStack.
> >>     >> We and
> >>     >> >>> some companies are still using Ceilometer, AODH (parts of
> >> Telemetry)
> >>     >> so we
> >>     >> >>> don't want that happen.
> >>     >> >>>
> >>     >> >>> Lingxian Kong (Trove and Qinling PTL), I (cc Julien Danjou,
> the
> >>     >> current PTL
> >>     >> >>> of Telemetry) had a conversation about this and agree to work
> >> together
> >>     >> to
> >>     >> >>> maintain the Telemetry projects. So I'm writing this email
> >> stating
> >>     >> that I
> >>     >> >>> would like to volunteer to be the PTL for Telemetry in Train.
> >>     >> >>>
> >>     >> >>> Though I haven't been directly involved in the development of
> >> Telemetry
> >>     >> >>> ever, my experience as Searchlight PTL and core in Fenix and
> >> Freezer
> >>     >> give
> >>     >> >>> me some technical understanding of Telemetry as well as
> >> OpenStack
> >>     >> >>> development procedure. You're in the good hands.
> >>     >> >>
> >>     >> >> I'm glad reading that people are still interested in
> Telemetry!
> >>     >> >>
> >>     >> >> How do you envision leading a project you never contributed
> to?
> >> I'm
> >>     >> >> wondering how someone can do that in practice.
> >>     >> >> Or do you see that just role being a straw-man job to avoid
> the
> >> project
> >>     >> >> for being tagged as abandoned?
> >>     >> >>
> >>     >> >> Cheers,
> >>     >> >> --
> >>     >> >> Julien Danjou
> >>     >> >> // Free Software hacker
> >>     >> >> // https://julien.danjou.info
> >>     >> >
> >>     >> > Without another volunteer, I'm not sure I see an alternative
> >> between
> >>     >> > shutting the project down and letting someone who has not
> >> contributed
> >>     >> > try to take it over. Do you have something else to propose?
> >>     >> >
> >>     >> > --
> >>     >> > Doug
> >>     >> >
> >>     >>
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Julien Danjou
> /* Free Software hacker
>    https://julien.danjou.info */
>


-- 
Thanks,
Rong Zhu
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