[placement][ptg] Shanghai attendance

Chris Dent cdent+os at anticdent.org
Thu Jul 11 21:25:50 UTC 2019

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019, Eric Fried wrote:

>> asked for feedback from the rest of the placement team on whether we
>> need to do any placement work there, given the value we got out of
>> the virtual pre-PTG in April.
>> Let me ask again: Do we need a presence at the PTG in Shanghai?
> The email-based virtual pre-PTG was extremely productive. We should
> definitely do it again.
> However, I feel like that last hour on Saturday saw more design progress
> than weeks worth of emails or spec reviews could have accomplished. To
> me, this is the value of the in-person meetups. It sucks that we can't
> involve everybody in the discussions - but we can rapidly crystallize an
> idea enough to produce a coherent spec that *can* then involve everybody.

I don't dispute that, and if sufficient people are there, then I
hope that such conversations can happen. However, if it's just that
hour that is useful, then we don't need to have placement attend in
a formal fashion. Spare rooms and a little forethought plus
serendipity will do the trick.

This is especially the case for Shanghai if the same thing that
was true in Denver remains so: most people will be engaged with
other meetings and projects [1].

> Having said that, I'm really not coming up with any major design topics
> that would benefit from such a meetup this time around. I feel like what
> we've accomplished in Train sets us up for a cycle or two of refinement
> (perf/docs/refactor/tech-debt) rather than feature work.


It might even be possible to call it mature and close to done.
That's what it is if nobody is clamoring for features.

[1] BTW: I think this is a good thing. If placement requires three
days of 30 people who only work on that talking at one another,
we're doing placement completely wrong.

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