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Hello :)

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:26 PM Chris Morgan <mihalis68 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the issue is that forum submissions building on what gets
> discussed in Berlin can't be expected to be finalised whilst attendees to
> the berlin meetup are still traveling. It's not that Erik can't pull these
> things together, in fact he's an old hand at this, it's more that this
> process isn't reasonable if there's so little time to collate what we learn
> in Berlin and feed it forward to Denver. Frankly it sounds like because the
> planning committee needs 5 weeks, Erik can have two days. Seem unfair.
>

Honestly, the decision process doesn't take much time, aside from
organizing a time that all 10 people can meet across x timezones (a thing
unto itself). Its the community feedback period, giving people enough time
to secure travel approval from their management, loading the sessions into
the actual schedule app, and other print deadlines that force us to have
everything set this far out.

I will definitely help the ops community in whatever way I can! Do you have
remote attendance set up for the meetup?


> Chris
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 2:29 PM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Another- nother thought: You could take a look at what is submitted by
>> project teams closer to the deadline and see if your ideas might fit well
>> with theirs since they are looking for feedback from operators anyway. In
>> the past I have always hoped for more engagement in the forum sessions I've
>> submitted but only ever had one or two operators able to join us.
>>
>> -Kendall (diablo_rojo)
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:14 AM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:08 AM Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Erik,
>>>>
>>>> I definitely understand the timeline is tight.  One of the reasons that
>>>> we publish the schedule so early is to enable community members to plan
>>>> their schedule early, especially as there is more overlap with the main
>>>> Summit Schedule in Denver.  Additionally, travel approval is often
>>>> predicated upon someone showing they're leading/moderating a session.
>>>>
>>>> Before publishing the schedule, we  print a draft Forum schedule for
>>>> community feedback and start promotion of the schedule, which we have to
>>>> put up on the OpenStack website and apps at 5 weeks out. Extending the date
>>>> beyond the 10th won't give the Forum Selection Committee enough time to
>>>> complete those tasks.
>>>>
>>>> I think if the Ops team can come up with some high level discussion
>>>> topics, we'll be happy to put some holds in the Forum schedule for
>>>> Ops-specific content.  diablo_rojo has also offered to attend some of the
>>>> Ops sessions remotely as well, if that would help you all shape some things
>>>> into actual sessions.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm definitely happy to help as much as I can. If you'll have something
>>> set up that I can call into (zoom, webex, bluejeans, hangout, whatever), I
>>> definitely will. I could also read through etherpads you take notes in and
>>> help summarize things into forum proposals.
>>>
>>> Another thing to note is that whatever you/we submit, it doesn't have to
>>> be award winning :) Its totally possible to change session descriptions and
>>> edit who the speaker is later.
>>>
>>> Other random thought, I know Sean McGinnis has attended a lot of the
>>> Operators stuff in the past so maybe he could help narrow things down too?
>>> Not to sign him up for more work, but I know he's written a forum propsal
>>> or two in the past ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wish I could offer a further extension, but extending it another week
>>>> would push too far into the process.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jimmy
>>>>
>>>> Erik McCormick <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>>> February 27, 2019 at 12:43 PM
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy,
>>>>
>>>> I won't even get home until the 10th much less have time to follow up
>>>> with anyone. The formation of those sessions often come from
>>>> discussions spawned at the meetup and expanded upon later with folks
>>>> who could not attend. Could we at least get until 3/17? I understand
>>>> your desire to finalize the schedule, but 6 weeks out should be more
>>>> than enough time, no?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Erik
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
>>>> February 27, 2019 at 12:04 PM
>>>>
>>>> Hi Erik,
>>>>
>>>> We are able to extend the deadline to 11:59PM Pacific, March 10th.
>>>> That should give the weekend to get any additional stragglers in and still
>>>> allow the Forum Programming Committee enough time to manage the rest of the
>>>> approval and publishing process in time for people's travel needs, etc...
>>>>
>>>> For the Ops Meetup specifically, I'd suggest going a bit broader with
>>>> the proposals and offering to fill in the blanks later.  For example, if
>>>> something comes up and everyone agrees it should go to the Forum, just
>>>> submit before the end of the Ops session.  Kendall or myself would be happy
>>>> to help you add details a bit later in the process, should clarification be
>>>> necessary.  We typically have enough spots for the majority of proposed
>>>> Forum sessions.  That's not a guarantee, but food for thought.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jimmy
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Erik McCormick <emccormick at cirrusseven.com>
>>>> February 27, 2019 at 11:31 AM
>>>> Would it be possible to push the deadline back a couple weeks? I expect
>>>> there to be a few session proposals that will come out of the Ops Meetup
>>>> which ends the day before the deadline. It would be helpful to have a
>>>> little time to organize and submit things afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Erik
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
>>>> February 27, 2019 at 10:40 AM
>>>> Hi Everyone -
>>>>
>>>> A quick reminder that we are accepting Forum [1] submissions for the
>>>> 2019 Open Infrastructure Summit in Denver [2].  Please submit your ideas
>>>> through the Summit CFP tool [3] through March 8th.  Don't forget to put
>>>> your brainstorming etherpad up on the Denver Forum page [4].
>>>>
>>>> This is not a classic conference track with speakers and presentations.
>>>> OSF community members (participants in development teams, operators,
>>>> working groups, SIGs, and other interested individuals) discuss the topics
>>>> they want to cover and get alignment on and we welcome your participation.
>>>> The Forum is your opportunity to help shape the development of future
>>>> project releases. More information about the Forum [1].
>>>>
>>>> If you have questions or concerns, please reach out to
>>>> speakersupport at openstack.org.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jimmy
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum
>>>> [2] https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/
>>>> [3] https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/call-for-presentations
>>>> [4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Denver2019
>>>> ___________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hopefully that helps!
>>>
>>> -Kendall (diablo_rojo)
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Morgan <mihalis68 at gmail.com>
>

- Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
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