[openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [Openstack-operators] [tc]Global Reachout Proposal

Sylvain Bauza sylvain.bauza at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 12:52:28 UTC 2018

Le mar. 18 sept. 2018 à 14:41, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> a écrit :

> On 2018-09-18 11:26:57 +0900 (+0900), Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
> [...]
> > I can understand that IRC cannot be used in China which is very
> > painful and mostly it is used weChat.
> [...]
> I have yet to hear anyone provide first-hand confirmation that
> access to Freenode's IRC servers is explicitly blocked by the
> mainland Chinese government. There has been a lot of speculation
> that the usual draconian corporate firewall policies (surprise, the
> rest of the World gets to struggle with those too, it's not just a
> problem in China) are blocking a variety of messaging protocols from
> workplace networks and the people who encounter this can't tell the
> difference because they're already accustomed to much of their other
> communications being blocked at the border. I too have heard from
> someone who's heard from someone that "IRC can't be used in China"
> but the concrete reasons why continue to be missing from these
> discussions.

Thanks fungi, that's the crux of the problem I'd like to see discussed in
the governance change.
In this change, it states the non-use of existing and official
communication tools as to be "cumbersome". See my comment on PS1, I thought
the original concern was technical.

Why are we discussing about WeChat now ? Is that because a large set of our
contributors *can't* access IRC or because they *prefer* any other ?
In the past, we made clear for a couple of times why IRC is our
communication channel. I don't see those reasons to be invalid now, but I'm
still open to understand the problems about why our community becomes de
facto fragmented.


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