[openstack-dev] [tripleo] quickstart for humans

Bogdan Dobrelya bdobreli at redhat.com
Mon Sep 10 13:38:24 UTC 2018

On 8/31/18 6:03 PM, Raoul Scarazzini wrote:
> On 8/31/18 12:07 PM, Jiří Stránský wrote:
> [...]
>> * "for humans" definition differs significantly based on who you ask.
>> E.g. my intention with [2] was to readily expose *more* knobs and tweaks
>> and be more transparent with the underlying workings of Ansible, because
>> i felt like quickstart.sh hides too much from me. In my opinion [2] is
>> sufficiently "for humans", yet it does pretty much the opposite of what
>> you're looking for.
> Hey Jiri,
> I think that "for humans" means simply that you launch the command with
> just one parameter (i.e. the virthost), and then you have something.

yes, this ^^
I'd also add one more thing: if you later remove that something while 
having the virthost as your localhost, and the non root user as your 
current logged-in user, you remain operational :) Teardown is quite 
destructive for CI, which might be not applicable for devboxes running 
on a laptop. I have a few changes [0] in work for addressing that case.


> And because of this I think here is just a matter of concentrate the
> efforts to turn back quickstart.sh to its original scope: making you
> launch it with just one parameter and have an available environment
> after a while (OK, sometimes more than a while).
> Since part of the recent discussions were around the hypotheses of
> removing it, maybe we can think about make it useful again. Mostly
> because it is right that the needs of everyone are different, but on the
> other side with a solid starting point (the default) you can think about
> customizing depending on your needs.
> I'm for recycling what we have, planet (and me) will enjoy it!
> My 0,0000002 cents.

Best regards,
Bogdan Dobrelya,
Irc #bogdando

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