[openstack-dev] [murano][tc] Seeking feedback on the OpenStack cloud vision
zbitter at redhat.com
Wed Oct 24 14:56:58 UTC 2018
Greetings, Murano team!
As you may be aware, I've been working with other folks in the community
on documenting a vision for OpenStack clouds (formerly known as the
'Technical Vision') - essentially to interpret the mission statement in
long-form, in a way that we can use to actually help guide decisions.
You can read the latest draft here: https://review.openstack.org/592205
We're trying to get feedback from as many people as possible - in many
ways the value is in the process of coming together to figure out what
we're trying to achieve as a community with OpenStack and how we can
work together to build it. The document is there to help us remember
what we decided so we don't have to do it all again over and over.
The vision is structured with two sections that apply broadly to every
project in OpenStack - describing the principles that we believe are
essential to every cloud, and the ones that make OpenStack different
from some other clouds. The third section is a list of design goals that
we want OpenStack as a whole to be able to meet - ideally each project
would be contributing toward one or more of these design goals.
To be honest, nothing in the document we have so far really captures the
scope and ambition of the original vision behind Murano. You could say
that it fulfils a similar role to Heat in meeting the Customisable
Integration goal by being one of the components that users can use to
wire the various servies the OpenStack offers together into a coherent
application, and functionally that would be a pretty accurate
description. But nothing in there suggests that we want OpenStack to
produce a standard packaging format for cloud application components or
a marketplace where they can be published. Is that still part of the
vision for Murano after the closure of the application catalog? Is it
something that should be explicitly part of the vision for OpenStack
clouds? If so, what should that look like?
The sections on Interoperability and Bidirectional Compatibility
formalise what are already important design considerations for Murano,
since one goal of its packaging format is obviously to provide
interoperability across clouds.
If you would like me or another TC member to join one of your team IRC
meetings to discuss further what the vision means for your team, please
reply to this thread to set it up. You are also welcome to bring up any
questions in the TC IRC channel, #openstack-tc - there's more of us
around during Office Hours
(https://governance.openstack.org/tc/#office-hours), but you can talk to
us at any time.
Feedback can also happen either in this thread or on the review
If the team is generally happy with the vision as it is and doesn't have
any specific feedback, that's cool but I'd like to request that at least
the PTL leave a vote on the review. It's important to know whether we
are actually developing a consensus in the community or just talking to
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