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Sorry, I'm opposed to this idea.

I admit I don't understand the political framework, nor have I read the
governing documents beyond [1], but that document makes it clear that
this is supposed to be a community-wide vote.  Is it really legal for
the TC (or whoever has merge rights on [2]) to merge a patch that gives
that same body the power to take the decision out of the hands of the
community? So it's really an oligarchy that gives its constituency the
illusion of democracy until something comes up that it feels like not
having a vote on? The fact that it's something relatively "unimportant"
(this time) is not a comfort.

Not that I think the TC would necessarily move forward with [2] in the
face of substantial opposition from non-TC "cores" or whatever.

I will vote enthusiastically for "Train". But a vote it should be.

-efried

[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611511/

On 10/18/2018 10:52 AM, Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com wrote:
> +1 for the poll.
> 
> Let’s follow well established process.
> 
> If we want to add Train as one of the options for the name I am OK with it.
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* Jonathan Mills <jonmills at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* openstack-sigs at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-sigs] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack
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> +1 for just having a poll
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:39 AM David Medberry <openstack at medberry.net
> <mailto:openstack at medberry.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm fine with Train but I'm also fine with just adding it to the
>     list and voting on it. It will win.
> 
>      
> 
>     Also, for those not familiar with the debian/ubuntu command "sl",
>     now is the time to become so.
> 
>      
> 
>     apt install sl
> 
>     sl -Flea #ftw
> 
>      
> 
>     On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 12:35 AM Tony Breeds
>     <tony at bakeyournoodle.com <mailto:tony at bakeyournoodle.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hello all,
>             As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release
>         have
>         now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
>         qualifying remarks can be seen at2].
> 
>         Proposed Names
>          * Tarryall
>          * Teakettle
>          * Teller
>          * Telluride
>          * Thomas
>          * Thornton
>          * Tiger
>          * Tincup
>          * Timnath
>          * Timber
>          * Tiny Town
>          * Torreys
>          * Trail
>          * Trinidad
>          * Treasure
>          * Troublesome
>          * Trussville
>          * Turret
>          * Tyrone
> 
>         Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
>          * Train
> 
>         However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select
>         'Train' as
>         the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is
> 
>          * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
>          * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
>            sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
>          * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
>            geographic based name for U[5]
>          * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can
>         always
>            run the poll
> 
>         I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen
>         before the
>         TC can consider / vote on it.
> 
>         Yours Tony.
> 
>         [1]
>         http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
>         [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
>         [3]
>         https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
>         [4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
>         [5]
>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z
>         <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T%E2%80%93Z>
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