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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:01 PM Zane Bitter <zbitter at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 12/10/18 8:59 AM, Corey Bryant wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 10:19 AM Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com
> > <mailto:aj at suse.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 10/10/2018 23.10, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> >      > I might have only pointed this out on IRC so far, but the
> >      > expectation is that testing 3.5 and 3.6 at the same time was
> merely
> >      > transitional since official OpenStack projects should be moving
> >      > their testing from Ubuntu Xenial (which provides 3.5) to Ubuntu
> >      > Bionic (which provides 3.6 and, now, 3.7 as well) during the Stein
> >      > cycle and so will drop 3.5 testing on master in the process.
> >
> >     Agreed, this needs some larger communication and explanation on what
> >     to do,
> >
> >
> > The good news is we now have an initial change underway and successful,
> > dropping py35 and enabling py37:
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609557/
>
> Hey Corey,
> Thanks for getting this underway, it's really important that we keep
> moving forward (we definitely got behind on the 3.6 transition and are
> paying for it now).
>
> That said, I don't think we should be dropping support/testing for 3.5.
> According to:
>
>    https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/pti/python.html
>
> 3.5 is the only Python3 version that we require all projects to run
> tests for.
>
> Out goal is to get everyone running 3.6 unit tests by the end of Stein:
>
>
>
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/stein/python3-first.html#python-3-6-unit-test-jobs
>
> but we explicitly said there that we were not dropping support for 3.5
> as part of the goal, and should continue to do so until we can effect an
> orderly transition later. Personally, I would see that including waiting
> for all the 3.5-supporting projects to add 3.6 jobs (which has been
> blocked up until ~this point, as we are only just now close to getting
> all of the repos using local Zuul config).
>
> I do agree that anything that works on 3.5 and 3.7 will almost certainly
> work on 3.6, so if you wanted to submit a patch to that goal saying that
> projects could add a unit test job for *either* 3.6 or 3.7 (in addition
> to 3.5) then I would probably support that. We could then switch all the
> 3.5 jobs to 3.6 later when we eventually drop 3.5 support. That would
> mean we'd only ever run 3 unit test jobs (and 2 once 2.7 is eventually
> dropped) - for the oldest and newest versions of Python 3 that a project
> supports.
>

This seems like a reasonable approach to me. I'll get a review up and we
can see what others think.

Thanks,
Corey


> cheers,
> Zane.
>
> [This thread was also discussed on IRC starting here:
>
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-10-15.log.html#t2018-10-15T18:09:05
> ]
>
> > I'm happy to get things moving along and start proposing changes like
> > this to other projects and communicating with PTLs along the way. Do you
> > think we need more discussion/communication on this or should I get
> started?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Corey
> >
> >
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