[openstack-dev] [cinder] Support share backup to different projects?

TommyLike Hu tommylikehu at gmail.com
Wed Mar 21 06:12:40 UTC 2018


Sure! I will bring this to our weekly meeting when more feedbacks are
gathered : )

Jay S Bryant <jungleboyj at gmail.com>于2018年3月21日周三 下午1:05写道:

> Tommy,
>
> I am still not sure that this is going to move the team to a different
> decision.
>
> Now that you have more information you can propose it as a topic in
> tomorrow's team meeting if you wish.
>
> Jay
>
> On 3/20/2018 8:54 PM, TommyLike Hu wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Jay,
>     The question is AWS doesn't have the concept of backup and their
> snapshot is incremental backup internally and will be finllay stored into
> S3 which is more sound like backup for us. Our snapshot can not be used
> across AZ.
>
> Jay S Bryant <jungleboyj at gmail.com>于2018年3月21日周三 上午4:13写道:
>
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2018 10:55 PM, TommyLike Hu wrote:
>>
>> Now Cinder can transfer volume (with or without snapshots) to different
>> projects,  and this make it possbile to transfer data across tenant via
>> volume or image. Recently we had a conversation with our customer from
>> Germany, they mentioned they are more pleased if we can support transfer
>> data accross tenant via backup not image or volume, and these below are
>> some of their concerns:
>>
>> 1. There is a use case that they would like to deploy their
>> develop/test/product systems in the same region but within different
>> tenants, so they have the requirment to share/transfer data across tenants.
>>
>> 2. Users are more willing to use backups to secure/store their volume
>> data since backup feature is more advanced in product openstack version
>> (incremental backups/periodic backups/etc.).
>>
>> 3. Volume transfer is not a valid option as it's in AZ and it's a
>> complicated process if we would like to share the data to multiple projects
>> (keep copy in all the tenants).
>>
>> 4. Most of the users would like to use image for bootable volume only and
>> share volume data via image means the users have to maintain lots of image
>> copies when volume backup changed as well as the whole system needs to
>> differentiate bootable images and none bootable images, most important, we
>> can not restore volume data via image now.
>>
>> 5. The easiest way for this seems to support sharing backup to different
>> projects, the owner project have the full authority while shared projects
>> only can view/read the backups.
>>
>> 6. AWS has the similar concept, share snapshot. We can share it by modify
>> the snapshot's create volume permissions [1].
>>
>> Looking forward to any like or dislike or suggestion on this idea
>> accroding to my feature proposal experience:)
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> TommyLike
>>
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ebs-modifying-snapshot-permissions.html
>>
>>
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>> Tommy,
>>
>> As discussed at the PTG, this still sounds like improper usage of
>> Backup.  Happy to hear input from others but I am having trouble getting my
>> head around it.
>>
>> The idea of sharing a snapshot, as you mention AWS supports sounds like
>> it could be a more sensible approach.  Why are you not proposing that?
>>
>> Jay
>>
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