[openstack-dev] [tc][all] A culture change (nitpicking)
Zane Bitter
zbitter at redhat.com
Mon Jun 4 14:29:33 UTC 2018
On 04/06/18 10:19, Amy Marrich wrote:
> Zane,
>
> I'll read in more detail, but do we want to add rollcall-vote?
Is it used anywhere other than in the governance repo? We certainly
could add it, but it didn't seem like a top priority.
- ZB
> Amy (spotz)
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Zane Bitter <zbitter at redhat.com
> <mailto:zbitter at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> On 31/05/18 14:35, Julia Kreger wrote:
>
> Back to the topic of nitpicking!
>
> I virtually sat down with Doug today and we hammered out the
> positive
> aspects that we feel like are the things that we as a community want
> to see as part of reviews coming out of this effort. The principles
> change[1] in governance has been updated as a result.
>
> I think we are at a point where we have to state high level
> principles, and then also update guidelines or other context
> providing
> documentation to re-enforce some of items covered in this
> discussion... not just to educate new contributors, but to serve
> as a
> checkpoint for existing reviewers when making the decision as to how
> to vote change set. The question then becomes where would such
> guidelines or documentation best fit?
>
>
> I think the contributor guide is the logical place for it. Kendall
> pointed out this existing section:
>
> https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/using-gerrit.html#reviewing-changes
> <https://docs.openstack.org/contributors/code-and-documentation/using-gerrit.html#reviewing-changes>
>
> It could go in there, or perhaps we separate out the parts about
> when to use which review scores into a separate page from the
> mechanics of how to use Gerrit.
>
> Should we explicitly detail the
> cause/effect that occurs? Should we convey contributor
> perceptions, or
> maybe even just link to this thread as there has been a massive
> amount
> of feedback raising valid cases, points, and frustrations.
>
> Personally, I'd lean towards a blended approach, but the question of
> where is one I'm unsure of. Thoughts?
>
>
> Let's crowdsource a set of heuristics that reviewers and
> contributors should keep in mind when they're reviewing or having
> their changes reviewed. I made a start on collecting ideas from this
> and past threads, as well as my own reviewing experience, into a
> document that I've presumptuously titled "How to Review Changes the
> OpenStack Way" (but might be more accurately called "The Frank
> Sinatra Guide to Code Review" at the moment):
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/review-the-openstack-way
> <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/review-the-openstack-way>
>
> It's in an etherpad to make it easier for everyone to add their
> suggestions and comments (folks in #openstack-tc have made some
> tweaks already). After a suitable interval has passed to collect
> feedback, I'll turn this into a contributor guide change.
>
> Have at it!
>
> cheers,
> Zane.
>
>
> -Julia
>
> [1]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570940/
> <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570940/>
>
>
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