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On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:27 AM, ChangBo Guo <glongwave at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, help means  to be the "Champion" for me :-)

That's very cool, if you can write a proposal in governance, similar
to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532361/ (Example with Sean).

The community will vote on which goals we take for Rocky.

Please let us know if you need any help,
Thanks!

> 2018-01-12 14:22 GMT+08:00 Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com>:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:59 PM, ChangBo Guo <glongwave at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I would like to help the goal - enable mutable configuration, would like
>> > to
>> > post a patch for that later.
>>
>> are you interested to be the "Champion" for this goal?
>>
>> >
>> > 2018-01-10 2:37 GMT+08:00 Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com>:
>> >>
>> >> As promised, let's continue the discussion and move things forward.
>> >>
>> >> This morning Thierry brought the discussion during the TC office hour
>> >> (that I couldn't attend due to timezone):
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/latest.log.html#t2018-01-09T09:18:33
>> >>
>> >> Some outputs:
>> >>
>> >> - One goal has been proposed so far.
>> >>
>> >> Right now, we only have one goal proposal: Storyboard Migration. There
>> >> are some concerns about the ability to achieve this goal in 6 months.
>> >> At that point, we think it would be great to postpone the goal to S
>> >> cycle, continue the progress (kudos to Kendall) and fine other goals
>> >> for Rocky.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - We still have a good backlog of goals, we're just missing champions.
>> >>
>> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals
>> >>
>> >> Chris brought up "pagination links in collection resources" in api-wg
>> >> guidelines theme. He said in the past this goal was more a "should"
>> >> than a "must".
>> >> Thierry mentioned privsep migration (done in Nova and Zun). (action,
>> >> ping mikal about it).
>> >> Thierry also brought up the version discovery (proposed by Monty).
>> >> Flavio proposed mutable configuration, which might be very useful for
>> >> operators.
>> >> He also mentioned that IPv6 support goal shouldn't be that far from
>> >> done, but we're currently lacking in CI jobs that test IPv6
>> >> deployments (question for infra/QA, can we maybe document the gap so
>> >> we can run some gate jobs on ipv6 ?)
>> >> (personal note on that one, since TripleO & Puppet OpenStack CI
>> >> already have IPv6 jobs, we can indeed be confident that it shouldn't
>> >> be that hard to complete this goal in 6 months, I guess the work needs
>> >> to happen in the projects layouts).
>> >> Another interesting goal proposed by Thierry, also useful for
>> >> operators, is to move more projects to assert:supports-upgrade tag.
>> >> Thierry said we are probably not that far from this goal, but the
>> >> major lack is in testing.
>> >> Finally, another "simple" goal is to remove mox/mox3 (Flavio said most
>> >> of projects don't use it anymore already).
>> >>
>> >> With that said, let's continue the discussion on these goals, see
>> >> which ones can be actionable and find champions.
>> >>
>> >> - Flavio asked how would it be perceived if one cycle wouldn't have at
>> >> least one community goal.
>> >>
>> >> Thierry said we could introduce multi-cycle goals (Storyboard might be
>> >> a good candidate).
>> >> Chris and Thierry thought that it would be a bad sign for our
>> >> community to not have community goals during a cycle, "loss of
>> >> momentum" eventually.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for reading so far,
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > [...]
>> >> >> Suggestions are welcome:
>> >> >> - on the mailing-list, in a new thread per goal [all] [tc] Proposing
>> >> >> goal XYZ for Rocky
>> >> >> - on Gerrit in openstack/governance like Kendall did.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just a fresh reminder about Rocky goals.
>> >> > A few questions that we can ask ourselves:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) What common challenges do we have?
>> >> >
>> >> > e.g. Some projects don't have mutable configuration or some projects
>> >> > aren't tested against IPv6 clouds, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2) Who is willing to drive a community goal (a.k.a. Champion)?
>> >> >
>> >> > note: a Champion is someone who volunteer to drive the goal, but
>> >> > doesn't commit to write the code necessarily. The Champion will
>> >> > communicate with projects PTLs about the goal, and make the liaison
>> >> > if
>> >> > needed.
>> >> >
>> >> > The list of ideas for Community Goals is documented here:
>> >> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals
>> >> >
>> >> > Please be involved and propose some ideas, I'm sure our community has
>> >> > some common goals, right ? :-)
>> >> > Thanks, and happy holidays. I'll follow-up in January of next year.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Emilien Macchi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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