[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Community Goals for Rocky

Emilien Macchi emilien at redhat.com
Tue Jan 9 18:37:50 UTC 2018

As promised, let's continue the discussion and move things forward.

This morning Thierry brought the discussion during the TC office hour
(that I couldn't attend due to timezone):

Some outputs:

- One goal has been proposed so far.

Right now, we only have one goal proposal: Storyboard Migration. There
are some concerns about the ability to achieve this goal in 6 months.
At that point, we think it would be great to postpone the goal to S
cycle, continue the progress (kudos to Kendall) and fine other goals
for Rocky.

- We still have a good backlog of goals, we're just missing champions.


Chris brought up "pagination links in collection resources" in api-wg
guidelines theme. He said in the past this goal was more a "should"
than a "must".
Thierry mentioned privsep migration (done in Nova and Zun). (action,
ping mikal about it).
Thierry also brought up the version discovery (proposed by Monty).
Flavio proposed mutable configuration, which might be very useful for operators.
He also mentioned that IPv6 support goal shouldn't be that far from
done, but we're currently lacking in CI jobs that test IPv6
deployments (question for infra/QA, can we maybe document the gap so
we can run some gate jobs on ipv6 ?)
(personal note on that one, since TripleO & Puppet OpenStack CI
already have IPv6 jobs, we can indeed be confident that it shouldn't
be that hard to complete this goal in 6 months, I guess the work needs
to happen in the projects layouts).
Another interesting goal proposed by Thierry, also useful for
operators, is to move more projects to assert:supports-upgrade tag.
Thierry said we are probably not that far from this goal, but the
major lack is in testing.
Finally, another "simple" goal is to remove mox/mox3 (Flavio said most
of projects don't use it anymore already).

With that said, let's continue the discussion on these goals, see
which ones can be actionable and find champions.

- Flavio asked how would it be perceived if one cycle wouldn't have at
least one community goal.

Thierry said we could introduce multi-cycle goals (Storyboard might be
a good candidate).
Chris and Thierry thought that it would be a bad sign for our
community to not have community goals during a cycle, "loss of
momentum" eventually.

Thanks for reading so far,

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Suggestions are welcome:
>> - on the mailing-list, in a new thread per goal [all] [tc] Proposing
>> goal XYZ for Rocky
>> - on Gerrit in openstack/governance like Kendall did.
> Just a fresh reminder about Rocky goals.
> A few questions that we can ask ourselves:
> 1) What common challenges do we have?
> e.g. Some projects don't have mutable configuration or some projects
> aren't tested against IPv6 clouds, etc.
> 2) Who is willing to drive a community goal (a.k.a. Champion)?
> note: a Champion is someone who volunteer to drive the goal, but
> doesn't commit to write the code necessarily. The Champion will
> communicate with projects PTLs about the goal, and make the liaison if
> needed.
> The list of ideas for Community Goals is documented here:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/community-goals
> Please be involved and propose some ideas, I'm sure our community has
> some common goals, right ? :-)
> Thanks, and happy holidays. I'll follow-up in January of next year.
> --
> Emilien Macchi

Emilien Macchi

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