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On 10/09/2017 08:44 AM, Jean-Philippe Evrard wrote:
> If you want to include the fix for PBR, or refresh it, don't hesitate
> to propose a follow-up patch.

That's the issue. I would very much like to propose a follow-up patch,
but Robert has disagreed on its very principle, so I don't see a route
to have a validated patch. That is, unless some key core contributors to
PBR agree with me first.

Also, I don't think it is a good idea to carry a Debian specific patch,
and I would very much prefer gathering a consensus. Such consensus could
be along the lines of: we've failed to have this issue tackled in a
timely manner at the setuptools level, therefore it is time to act and
adopt the pragmatic solution.

> In any case, I don't think it's a good idea to wait for things to
> happen, and expect that uniformity will happen naturally. This is a
> step in the right direction.
> 
> On top of that we are still early in the Queens cycle, so it leaves a
> chance to the packagers to react. I think it's good timing.

I very much agree that it is more than time to have this problem solved.
Let's be constructive and fix the situation! Starting this thread was
definitively a very good idea, especially considering different people
have different opinions.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)