[openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] LTS pragmatic example
doug at doughellmann.com
Tue Nov 14 16:20:02 UTC 2017
Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-11-15 03:04:38 +1100:
> Flavio, Saverio,
> Agree, that review may be a good example of what could be done. More info below.
> Saverio said - "with the old Stable Release thinking this patch would
> not be accepted on old stable branches."
> My response - "Those branches are still under stable policy. That has
> not changed just because of an email thread or a discussion in Forum"
Which stable policy does that patch violate? It's clearly a bug
because the wrong information is being logged. I suppose it goes
against the string freeze rule? Except that we've stopped translating
log messages so maybe we don't need to worry about that in this case,
since it isn't an exception.
> Saverio said - "Let's see if this gets accepted back to stable/newton"
> My response - "The branch the review is against is still under stable
> policy. So things that will or will not be backported will not change"
> Saverio said - "Please note that a developers/operators that make the
> effort of fixing this in master, should do also all the cherry-pickes
> back. We dont have any automatic procudure for this."
> My response - "How the cherry-picks are done for stable branches will
> not change. This is a stable branch, so there is no automatic
> procedure for backporting"
Do we really not have any automation for proposing a cherry-pick
back through multiple branches? I know it can be done with a bunch
of clicks in gerrit, but it seems like it should be possible to
automate. Can someone write that script and put it into the
> I really want folks to help with stable first, learn how things are
> done and then propose changes to stable branch policies and help
> execute them
> If folks want to chase LTS, then we are outlining a procedure/process
> that is a first step towards LTS eventually.
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:46 AM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 14/11/17 22:33 +1100, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >> Saverio,
> >> This is still under the stable team reviews... NOT LTS.
> >> Your contacts for the Nova Stable team is ...
> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/540,members
> >> Let's please be clear, we need new people to help with LTS plans.
> >> Current teams can't scale, they should not have to and it's totally
> >> unfair to expect them to do so.
> > I think you may have misunderstood Saverio's email. IIUC, what he was trying
> > to
> > do was provide an example in favor of the LTS branches as discussed in
> > Sydney,
> > rather than requesting for reviews or suggesting the stable team should do
> > LTS.
> > Flavio
> >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Saverio Proto <zioproto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> here an example of a trivial patch that is important for people that
> >>> do operations, and they have to troubleshoot stuff.
> >>> with the old Stable Release thinking this patch would not be accepted
> >>> on old stable branches.
> >>> Let's see if this gets accepted back to stable/newton
> >>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/If525313c63c4553abe8bea6f2bfaf75431ed18ea
> >>> Please note that a developers/operators that make the effort of fixing
> >>> this in master, should do also all the cherry-pickes back. We dont
> >>> have any automatic procudure for this.
> >>> thank you
> >>> Saverio
> > --
> > @flaper87
> > Flavio Percoco
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