[openstack-dev] [tc][appcat] The future of the App Catalog

Clint Byrum clint at fewbar.com
Fri Mar 10 22:43:40 UTC 2017

Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2017-03-10 20:47:55 +0000:
> Just because the market hasn't immediately shifted from IaaS to containers doesn't mean it won't happen eventually, and that google's wrong in their push for containers over IaaS. It took a long time (still ongoing) to move from physical machines to vm's. The same parallel will happen with containers I believe. We're at least a few years out from it becoming more common place. That doesn't mean folks can assume it will always be the way it is, and the "market has spoken". "The only constants are death and taxes." :)
> Your right in the assertion k8s needs a place to run, but that doesn't necessarily mean OpenStack, unless we help integrate it and make it a great place to run it.
> I'm glad the IaaS stuff in OpenStack suits your needs. Thats great. It hasn't served a great number of users needs though, and has been at least misleading folks into believing it will for a number of years. If we want it to just be an IaaS, lets free up those users to move on elsewhere.
> Does OpenStack intend just to be an IaaS in a few years or something else?

Why should it strive to be anything except an excellent building block
for other technologies?

Containers have a community and there's no reason we should think of that
as separate from us. We're friends, and we overlap when it makes sense.

All the container tech that I see out there still needs computers /
disks / networks to run on. OpenStack is a pretty decent way to chop your
computers up and give fully automated control of all aspects of them to
multiple tenants.  What else would you want it to do that isn't already
an aspect of Kubernetes, CloudFoundry, etc.?

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