[openstack-dev] [all] Some information about the Forum at the Summit in Boston

Ben Swartzlander ben at swartzlander.org
Thu Mar 9 16:23:31 UTC 2017

I might be the only one who has negative feelings about the PTG/Forum 
split, but I suspect the foundation is suppressing negative feedback 
from myself and other developers so I'll express my feelings here. If 
there's anyone else who feels like me please reply, otherwise I'll 
assume I'm just an outlier.

The new structure is asking developers to travel 4 times a year 
(minimum) and makes it impossible to participate in 2 or more vertical 

I know that most of the people working on Manila have pretty limited 
travel budgets, and meeting 4 times a year basically guarantees that a 
good number of people will be remote at any given meeting. From my 
perspective if I'm going to be meeting with people on the phone I'd 
rather be on the phone myself and have everyone on equal footing.

I also normally try to participate in Cinder as well as Manila and the 
new PTG structures makes that impossible. I decided to try to be 
positive and to wait until after the PTG to make up my mind but having 
attended in Atlanta it was exactly as bad as I expected in terms of my 
ability to participate in Cinder.

I will be in Boston to try to develop a firsthand opinion of the new 
Forum format but as of now I'm pretty unhappy with the proposal. For 
Manila I'm proposing that the community either meets at PTG and skips 
conferences or meetings at conferences and skips PTGs going forward. I'm 
not going to ask everyone to travel 4 times a year.

-Ben Swartzlander
Manila PTL

On 03/07/2017 07:35 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I recently got more information about the space dedicated to the "Forum"
> at the OpenStack Summit in Boston. We'll have three different types of
> spaces available.
> 1/ "Forum" proper
> There will be 3 medium-sized fishbowl rooms for cross-community
> discussions. Topics for the discussions in that space will be selected
> and scheduled by a committee formed of TC and UC members, facilitated by
> Foundation staff members. In case you missed it, the brainstorming for
> topics started last week, announced by Emilien in that email:
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113115.html
> 2/ "On-boarding" rooms
> We'll have two rooms set up in classroom style, dedicated to project
> teams and workgroups who want to on-board new team members. Those can
> for example be booked by project teams to run an introduction to their
> codebase to prospective new contributors, in the hope that they will
> join their team in the future. Those are not meant to do traditional
> user-facing "project intro" talks -- there is space in the conference
> for that. They are meant to provide the next logical step in
> contributing after Upstream University and being involved on the
> sidelines. It covers the missing link for prospective contributors
> between attending Summit and coming to the PTG. Kendall Nelson and Mike
> Perez will soon announce the details for this, including how projects
> can sign up.
> 3/ Free hacking/meetup space
> We'll have four or five rooms populated with roundtables for ad-hoc
> discussions and hacking. We don't have specific plans for these -- we
> could set up something like the PTG ethercalc for teams to book the
> space, or keep it open. Maybe half/half.
> More details on all this as they come up.
> Hoping to see you there !

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