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Good morning / afternoon / evening,

Not sure if you have seen the agenda etherpad posted in the Slack channel - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/picasso-first-meeting. Might be worth putting our thoughts in there, I already had a few questions about integration with the OpenStack community and so on.

Here are a few of my biggest sticking points with the project which I feel we should really address early on:


a)       Currently the project does not appear to use the standard OpenStack Oslo libraries and as such the configuration and behavior of the project is inconsistent with other projects. This could be particularly confusing for operators as even simple things like the config file (there isn’t one yet that I am aware of, stuff is passed In via args at daemon run time) is completely different to the usual section based config files we see in most OpenStack projects.

b)       The project only works with IronFunctions, not saying that IronFunctions is a bad choice for sure a driver for IronFunctions should be included, but it would be good to allow other Function as a Service platforms to make use of Picasso in a pluggable fashion, e.g. a driver for Fission, or a raw driver based on top of Nova / Heat. For me vendor neutrality is a really important aspect of OpenStack services and having the freedom to choose the backend of these APIs is crucial.

Best Regards,

Rob

From: Derek Schultz <schultz.derek at gmail.com>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 5:19 AM
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [picasso] First meeting on 7th of March

Update: the patch to openstack-infra/irc-meetings was merged, so we should be good to go. The only change was moving the meeting time from 1800 UTC to 1700 UTC.

Meeting details can be found here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Picasso

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:45 PM Derek Schultz <schultz.derek at gmail.com<mailto:schultz.derek at gmail.com>> wrote:
All good points, it's important that we do not diverge from the community. Today I created an #openstack-functions channel on IRC and have submitted the necessary patches to the openstack-infra project-config and irc-meetings repositories. Due to this, I may have to move the first meeting from this Tuesday to another day or week as we wait for approval.. I'll keep this thread posted as soon as I know more.

Regards,
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:54 AM Paul Belanger <pabelanger at redhat.com<mailto:pabelanger at redhat.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 05:41:24PM +0000, Derek Schultz wrote:
> Hi Emilien,
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I'm aware that IRC is the standard for OpenStack
> folks, but at this current stage it's just easier to hold the discussion in
> Slack as Picasso ties into the IronFunctions open source project and
> important context would be lost if we were to maintain different chat
> platforms. That said, I think we can move Picasso from Slack to IRC in the
> future (once we prepare for the big tent).
>
I agree with Emilien here, by using a proprietary platform you are potentially
alienation existing openstack developers from contributing to your project.
Yes IRC would be needed for big tent, but why start consuming IRC out of the
gate?

Are are already hosting code on git.openstack.org<http://git.openstack.org>, seems like the next step
would be to move to IRC.

> Regards,
> Derek Schultz
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:49 AM Emilien Macchi <emilien at redhat.com<mailto:emilien at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Derek Schultz <schultz.derek at gmail.com<mailto:schultz.derek at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > The Picasso team will be running our first meeting next Tuesday. All
> > those
> > > interested in the project are welcome!
> > >
> > > For those of you not familiar with Picasso, it provides a platform for
> > > Functions as a Service (FaaS) on OpenStack [1].
> > >
> > > Tuesday, March 7th, 2017 Meeting Agenda:
> > > Starting at UTC 18:00
> > >
> > > 1. From Python to Go. (What Picasso needs from IronFunctions to implement
> > > multi-tenancy)
> > > 2. Blueprints [2]
> > > 3. Figure out best time slot for future meetings.
> > > 4. Roadmap discussion.
> > >
> > > How to join:
> > > http://slack.iron.io in the #openstack channel
> >
> > I would recommend using IRC for consistency with other projects.
> > Nothing forces you to do so, unless you plan to apply to the Big Tent.
> > My personal recommendation would be to use IRC so you can get more
> > visibility, since most of OpenStack folks are on IRC (and not always
> > on Slack).
> >
> > Good luck for your first meeting!
> >
> > > Etherpad:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/picasso-first-meeting
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Picasso
> > > [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/picasso
> > >
> > >
> > >
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