[openstack-dev] [Glare][TC][All] Past, Present and Future of Glare project

Mikhail Fedosin mfedosin at gmail.com
Tue Jun 27 15:41:58 UTC 2017


On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:

> From what I can tell, Keycloak is an Identity provider, not a secret store?
>
> Yes! I should explain more detailed.

CloudBand is a big enterprise system for SDN and OpenStack is a part of it.
The default Identity provider of the system is Keycloak.
Currently Glare is used there not as a part of OpenStack deployment, but as
a standalone service outside of OpenStack.
For this reason earlier this year we implemented Keycloak auth middleware
for the server and authentication mechanism in the client,
i.e. we can use Keycloak instead of Keystone.

The decision regarding the secrets was taken, on the grounds that Barbican
does not have such ability, and it's tightly attached
to Keystone. Moreover it was not difficult to implement the plugin for
Glare.
As I said - originally this is a private plugin, which was decided to
opensource for the OpenStack community. If this is not required, then
we can always cancel it. I don't see any problems with this.


> -jay
>
> On 06/27/2017 05:35 AM, Adam Heczko wrote:
>
>> Barbican already supports multiple secret storage backends [1] and most
>> likely adding Keycloak's one [2] should be possible.
>>
>> [1] https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/key-manager
>> /draft/barbican-backend.html
>> [2] https://github.com/jpkrohling/secret-store
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org
>> <mailto:thierry at openstack.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Mikhail Fedosin wrote:
>>     >             Does the above mean you are implementing a share secret
>> storage
>>     >             solution or that you are going to use an existing
>> solution like
>>     >             Barbican that does that?
>>     >
>>     >         Sectets is a plugin for Glare we developed for Nokia
>> CloudBand
>>     >         platform,   and they just decided to opensource it. It
>> doesn't
>>     >         use Barbican, technically it is oslo.versionedobjects class.
>>     >
>>     >     Sorry to hear that you opted not to use Barbican.
>>     >
>>     > I think it's only because Keycloak integration is required by
>> Nokia's
>>     > system and Barbican doesn't support it.
>>
>>     Any technical reason why it couldn't be added to Barbican ? Any chance
>>     Keycloak integration could be added as a Castellan backend ? Secrets
>>     management is really one of those things that should *not* be
>> reinvented
>>     in every project. It is easier to get wrong than people think, and you
>>     end up having to do security audits on 10 repositories instead of one.
>>
>>     --
>>     Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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