Open Stack

Sean,

This sounds amazing and Swift could definitely use some [automated]
assistance here.  It would help if you could throw out a WIP somewhere.

First thought that comes to mind tho .... storyboard.o.o :\

-Clay

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:

> The Nova bug backlog is just over 800 open bugs, which while
> historically not terrible, remains too large to be collectively usable
> to figure out where things stand. We've had a few recent issues where we
> just happened to discover upgrade bugs filed 4 months ago that needed
> fixes and backports.
>
> Historically we've tried to just solve the bug backlog with volunteers.
> We've had many a brave person dive into here, and burn out after 4 - 6
> months. And we're currently without a bug lead. Having done a big giant
> purge in the past
> (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-
> September/046517.html)
> I know how daunting this all can be.
>
> I don't think that people can currently solve the bug triage problem at
> the current workload that it creates. We've got to reduce the smart
> human part of that workload.
>
> But, I think that we can also learn some lessons from what active github
> projects do.
>
> #1 Bot away bad states
>
> There are known bad states of bugs - In Progress with no open patch,
> Assigned but not In Progress. We can just bot these away with scripts.
> Even better would be to react immediately on bugs like those, that helps
> to train folks how to use our workflow. I've got some starter scripts
> for this up at - https://github.com/sdague/nova-bug-tools
>
> #2 Use tag based workflow
>
> One lesson from github projects, is the github tracker has no workflow.
> Issues are openned or closed. Workflow has to be invented by every team
> based on a set of tags. Sometimes that's annoying, but often times it's
> super handy, because it allows the tracker to change workflows and not
> try to change the meaning of things like "Confirmed vs. Triaged" in your
> mind.
>
> We can probably tag for information we know we need at lot easier. I'm
> considering something like
>
> * needs.system-version
> * needs.openstack-version
> * needs.logs
> * needs.subteam-feedback
> * has.system-version
> * has.openstack-version
> * has.reproduce
>
> Some of these a bot can process the text on and tell if that info was
> provided, and comment how to provide the updated info. Some of this
> would be human, but with official tags, it would probably help.
>
> #3 machine assisted functional tagging
>
> I'm playing around with some things that might be useful in mapping new
> bugs into existing functional buckets like: libvirt, volumes, etc. We'll
> see how useful it ends up being.
>
> #4 reporting on smaller slices
>
> Build some tooling to report on the status and change over time of bugs
> under various tags. This will help visualize how we are doing
> (hopefully) and where the biggest piles of issues are.
>
> The intent is the normal unit of interaction would be one of these
> smaller piles. Be they the 76 libvirt bugs, 61 volumes bugs, or 36
> vmware bugs. It would also highlight the rates of change in these piles,
> and what's getting attention and what is not.
>
>
> This is going to be kind of an ongoing experiment, but as we currently
> have no one spear heading bug triage, it seemed like a good time to try
> this out.
>
> Comments and other suggestions are welcomed. The tooling will have the
> nova flow in mind, but I'm trying to make it so it takes a project name
> as params on all the scripts, so anyone can use it. It's a little hack
> and slash right now to discover what the right patterns are.
>
>         -Sean
>
> --
> Sean Dague
> http://dague.net
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request at lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20170623/c1c126ac/attachment.html>