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On 06/15/2017 11:56 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
> Just an immediate reaction: to me "OpenStack-Hosted projects" is not very 
> distinct from "OpenStack projects".  So with that terminology I think there will 
> still be confusion (perhaps more).

This was my reaction as well. For people who misunderstood official vs 
unofficial, this is going to pose an even bigger challenge, I'm afraid.

> 
> (Or did I misunderstand your new proposal?)
> 
> Regards - Neil
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:16 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org 
> <mailto:thierry at openstack.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi everyone,
> 
>     Back in 2014, OpenStack was facing a problem. Our project structure,
>     inherited from days where Nova, Swift and friends were the only game in
>     town, was not working anymore. The "integrated release" that we ended up
>     producing was not really integrated, already too big to be installed by
>     everyone, and yet too small to accommodate the growing interest in other
>     forms of "open infrastructure". The incubation process (from stackforge
>     to incubated, from incubated to integrated) created catch-22s that
>     prevented projects from gathering enough interest to reach the upper
>     layers. Something had to give.
> 
>     The project structure reform[1] that resulted from those discussions
>     switched to a simpler model: project teams would be approved based on
>     how well they fit the OpenStack overall mission and community
>     principles, rather than based on a degree of maturity. It was nicknamed
>     "the big tent" based on a blogpost[2] that Monty wrote -- mostly
>     explaining that things produced by the OpenStack community should be
>     considered OpenStack projects.
> 
>     So the reform removed the concept of incubated vs. integrated, in favor
>     of a single "official" category. Tags[3] were introduced to better
>     describe the degree of maturity of the various official things. "Being
>     part of the big tent" was synonymous to "being an official project" (but
>     people kept saying the former).
> 
>     At around the same time, mostly for technical reasons around the
>     difficulty of renaming git repositories, the "stackforge/" git
>     repository prefix was discontinued (all projects hosted on OpenStack
>     infrastructure would be created under an "openstack/" git repository
>     prefix).
> 
>     All those events combined, though, sent a mixed message, which we are
>     still struggling with today. "Big tent" has a flea market connotation of
>     "everyone can come in". Combined with the fact that all git repositories
>     are under the same prefix, it created a lot of confusion. Some people
>     even think the big tent is the openstack/ namespace, not the list of
>     official projects. We tried to stop using the "big tent" meme, but (I
>     blame Monty), the name is still sticking. I think it's time to more
>     aggressively get rid of it. We tried using "unofficial" and "official"
>     terminology, but that did not stick either.
> 
>     I'd like to propose that we introduce a new concept: "OpenStack-Hosted
>     projects". There would be "OpenStack projects" on one side, and
>     "Projects hosted on OpenStack infrastructure" on the other side (all
>     still under the openstack/ git repo prefix). We'll stop saying "official
>     OpenStack project" and "unofficial OpenStack project". The only
>     "OpenStack projects" will be the official ones. We'll chase down the
>     last mentions of "big tent" in documentation and remove it from our
>     vocabulary.
> 
>     I think this new wording (replacing what was previously Stackforge,
>     replacing what was previously called "unofficial OpenStack projects")
>     will bring some clarity as to what is OpenStack and what is beyond it.
> 
>     Thoughts ?
> 
>     [1]
>     https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20141202-project-structure-reform-spec.html
>     [2] http://inaugust.com/posts/big-tent.html
>     [3] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/index.html
> 
>     --
>     Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> 
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