[openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 29

Chris Dent cdent+os at anticdent.org
Wed Jul 19 12:20:23 UTC 2017

(Blog version at https://anticdent.org/tc-report-29.html )

This TC Report is a bit late. Yesterday I was attacked by an oyster.

This week had no meeting, so what follows is a summary of various
other TC related (sometimes only vaguely related) activity.

# Vision

The [TC
has been merged, presented in a way that makes sure that it's easy and
desirable to create a new vision at a later date to respond to
changing circumstances. There were concerns during the review process
that the document as is does not take into account recent changes in
the corporate and contributor community surrounding OpenStack. The
consensus conclusion, however, was that the goals stated in the vision
remain relevant and productive work has already begun.

# Hosted Projects

The conversation about [hosted
continues, mostly in regard to that question with great stamina: Is
OpenStack Infrastructure as a Service or something more encompassing
of all of cloud? In either case what does it take for something to be
a complete IAAS or what is "cloud"? There was a useful posting from
Zane pointing out that the [varied
people bring to the discussion are a) varied, b) assumptions.

It feels likely that these discussion will become more fraught during
times of pressure but have no easy answers. As long as the discussion
don't devolve into name calling, I think each repeat round is useful
as it brings new insights to the old hands and keeps the new hands
informed of stuff that matters. Curtailing the discussion simply
because we have been over it before is disrespectful to the people who
continue to care and to the people for whom it is new.

I still think we haven't fully expressed the answers to the questions
about the value and cost that any project being officially in
OpenStack has for that project or for OpenStack. I'm not asserting
anything about the values or the costs; knowing the answers is simply
necessary to have a valid conversation.

# Glare

The conversation about [Glare becoming
continued, but more slowly than before. The plan at this stage is to
discuss the issues in person at the PTG where the Glare project will
have some space. [ttx made a brief
there's no objection to Glare becoming official unless there is some
reason to believe it will result in issues for Glance (which is by no
means pre-determined).

# SIGs

The new openstack-sigs mailing list was opened with a deliberately
provocative thread on [How SIG Work Gets
This resulted in comments on how OpenStack work gets done, how open
source work gets done, and even whether open source behaviors fully apply
in the OpenStack context.

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