[openstack-dev] [all][tc] Wiki

Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com
Mon Jul 3 18:22:12 UTC 2017

Most of google searches will pickup wiki pages. So people will view wiki as the current state of projects.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez [mailto:thierry at openstack.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 9:30 AM
To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Wiki

Flavio Percoco wrote:
> On 03/07/17 13:58 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> Flavio Percoco wrote:
>>> Sometimes I wonder if we still need to maintain a Wiki. I guess some 
>>> projects still use it but I wonder if the use they make of the Wiki 
>>> could be moved somewhere else.
>>> For example, in the TC we use it for the Agenda but I think that 
>>> could be moved to an etherpad. Things that should last forever 
>>> should be documented somewhere (project repos, governance repo in 
>>> the TC case) where we can actually monitor what goes in and easily 
>>> clean up.
>> This is a complete tangent, but I'll bite :) We had a thorough 
>> discussion about that last year, summarized at:
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/096481.h
>> tml
>> TL,DR; was that while most authoritative content should (and has been
>> mostly) moved off the wiki, it's still useful as a cheap publication 
>> platform for teams and workgroups, somewhere between a git repository 
>> with a docs job and an etherpad.
>> FWIW the job of migrating authoritative things off the wiki is still 
>> on-going. As an example, Thingee is spearheading the effort to move 
>> the "How to Contribute" page and other first pointers to a reference 
>> website (see recent thread about that).
> I guess the short answer is that we hope one day we won't need it. I 
> certainly do.
> What would happen if we make the wiki read-only? Would that break 
> peopl's workflow?
> Do we know what teams modify the wiki more often and what it is they 
> do there?

The data is publicly available (see recent changes on the wiki). Most ops workgroups heavily rely on the wiki, as well as a significant number of upstream project teams and workgroups. Developers are clearly not the main target.

You can dive back into the original analysis etherpad if you're interested:


Things that are stroked out are things we moved to reference websites since then.

Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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