[openstack-dev] [governance][tc][rally] Rally (Re: [rally][release] How rally release version)

Davanum Srinivas davanum at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 15:55:40 UTC 2017


Andrey,

My apologies. Thanks for the clarifications.

-- Dims

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Andrey Kurilin <akurilin at mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Andrey,
>>
>> It's a question, not a proposal.
>
>
> Sorry, but your message doesn't sound like a question. It sounds like a
> polite proposal.
>
>>
>> If you don't do use releases repo, then rally information will be stale
>> here:
>> https://releases.openstack.org/
>>
>> Here's why we have a release team and things we do:
>>
>> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/release-management.html
>>
>> https://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/centralize-release-tagging.html
>> http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html
>>
>> Since Rally is following the independent model, it has a whole lot of
>> leeway:
>>
>> http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#independent-release-model
>>
>> However the absolute minimum requirement is that the releases repo
>> should be kept in sync. If that is too cumbersome, i don't know...
>>
>
> Please re-read your first mail in the thread. It is not about synchronizing
> release notes at all. You are
> asking about throwing Rally project out from Big Tent due to ourdated info
> posted at https://releases.openstack.org.
> Seriusly?
>
> To finish this topic:
>
> - As a Rally PTL, I do not want to drop the project out of Big Tent. At
> least for now. Who knows what will happen
>   when you will extend bureaucracy someday...
>
> - I'll update info at openstack/releases repo soon and will try to do it in
> the right time while releasing new versions.
>
> - Rally follows the rules described by:
>   *
> http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#independent-release-model
>   *
> http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-process-for-other-projects
>
>     > OpenStack projects following a cycle-independent model can ... push
> signed tags by themselves.
>
> - There are no reasons to continue discussion dropping Rally. I can start a
> ton of topics like "Drop Nova" with similar "real"
>   reasons.
>
> - I'm not against the work done by OpenStack Release team. I had a good
> experience with that while working in not-Rally projects.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dims
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrey Kurilin <akurilin at mirantis.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Dims!
>> >
>> > I do not want to say except question "why you are proposing to do
>> > that?".
>> >
>> > I tried to find any rules about releasing at
>> > https://governance.openstack.org, but I could not.
>> > Please point me what rule I broke.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andrey, Rally team,
>> >>
>> >> Do you want Rally to be dropped from Governance and Releases
>> >> repository?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Dims
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Jeffrey Zhang
>> >> <zhang.lei.fly at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > @Andrey, thanks for the explanation.
>> >> >
>> >> > The issue is: how can i know which tag works with certain OpenStack
>> >> > branch?
>> >> > For example, which tag
>> >> > works with OpenStack Ocata release? There is no place recording this.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also found there are some other project do not use
>> >> > "project/releases"
>> >> > project. May they are using
>> >> > the same solution as rally.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Andrey Kurilin
>> >> > <akurilin at mirantis.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Jeffrey,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rally team do not use "releases" repo at all, that is why
>> >> >> information
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> [2] is outdated.
>> >> >> Our release workflow is making a proper tag and pushing it via
>> >> >> Gerrit.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> find it more convenient.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Jeffrey Zhang
>> >> >> <zhang.lei.fly at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hey guys,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I found rally already releases its 0.8.1 tag from[0][1]. But
>> >> >>> I found nothing in openstack/releases project[2]. How rally
>> >> >>> create tag?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> [0] http://tarballs.openstack.org/rally/
>> >> >>> [1] https://github.com/openstack/rally/releases
>> >> >>> [2]
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/rally.yaml#L45
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >>> Jeffrey Zhang
>> >> >>> Blog: http://xcodest.me
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Andrey Kurilin.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jeffrey Zhang
>> >> > Blog: http://xcodest.me
>> >> >
>> >> >
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