[openstack-dev] Large Contributing OpenStack Operators working group?

Steven Dake (stdake) stdake at cisco.com
Mon Feb 6 16:37:18 UTC 2017


I don’t see a reference to the wiki page in your email and don’t immediately see the LCOO working group wiki.  From what you describe this working group is not working within the framework of the 4 opens which is one of OpenStack’s fundamental philosophies.

Thanks for bringing up your questions; I hope someone that represents this group can at least get this working group operating within the 4 opens framework if they are not already.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com>
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:14 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>, "openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org" <openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [openstack-dev] Large Contributing OpenStack Operators working	group?

    I was told about this group today. I have a few questions. Hopefully 
    someone from this team can illuminate me with some answers.
    1) What is the purpose of this group? The wiki states that the team 
    "aims to define the use cases and identify and prioritise the 
    requirements which are needed to deploy, manage, and run services on top 
    of OpenStack. This work includes identifying functional gaps, creating 
    blueprints, submitting and reviewing patches to the relevant OpenStack 
    projects, contributing to working those items, tracking their completion."
    What is the difference between the LCOO and the following existing 
    working groups?
      * Large Deployment Team
      * Massively Distributed Team
      * Product Working Group
      * Telco/NFV Working Group
    2) According to the wiki page, only companies that are "Multi-Cloud 
    Operator[s] and/or Network Service Provider[s]" are welcome in this 
    team. Why is the team called "Large Contributing OpenStack Operators" if 
    it's only for Telcos? Further, if this is truly only for Telcos, why 
    isn't the Telco/NFV working group appropriate?
    3) Under the "Guiding principles" section of the above wiki, the top 
    principle is "Align with the OpenStack Foundation". If this is the case, 
    why did the group move its content to the closed Atlassian Confuence 
    platform? Why does the group have a set of separate Slack channels 
    instead of using the OpenStack mailing lists and IRC channels? Why is 
    the OPNFV Jira used for tracking work items for the LCOO agenda?
    See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata for examples.
    4) I see a lot of agenda items around projects like Gluon, Craton, 
    Watcher, and Blazar. I don't see any concrete ideas about talking with 
    the developers of the key infrastructure services that OpenStack is 
    built around. How does the LCOO plan on reaching out to the developers 
    of the long-standing OpenStack projects like Nova, Neutron, Cinder, and 
    Keystone to drive their shared agenda?
    Thanks for reading and (hopefully) answering.
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