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On 22/09/16 09:39 -0500, Michał Jastrzębski wrote:
>Flavio,
>
>So as you surely know k8s is an orchiestration tools, docker is
>container engine. If you are running k8s, you still run docker:)

I know this (although, if we really want to nitpick you could technically use
something else than docker :P). In my email I mentioned that I'm interested in
documenting how one would deploy OpenStack on kubernetes, which is likely
different from how you'd deploy OpenStack on docker (or any other container
runtime).

>Kolla-kubernetes is a part of Big Tent, is project developed by Kolla
>community and we're close to our big showdown:) Come over to our
>session in Barcelona, in the meantime I suggest you look at
>https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes and join us at
>#openstack-kolla

Thakns for the info. As I mentioned in my email, I know kolla-kubernetes, I've
reviewed some specs and patches, etc. I am, however, interested in something
different which is how you'd deploy OpenStack on k8s. Is kolla-kubernetes doing
this the right way? Is there a better way to do it? These are the kind of things
I'd love to document. I know some OPs have contributed to kolla-kubernetes too.

Thanks for getting back,
Flavio


>On 22 September 2016 at 09:09, Davanum Srinivas <davanum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Flavio
>>
>> Please see below:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I've recently started looking into the container technologies around
>>> OpenStack.
>>> More specifically, I've been looking into the tools that allow for deploying
>>> OpenStack on containers, which is what I'm the most interested in right now
>>> as
>>> part of the TripleO efforts.
>>>
>>> I'm familiar with the Kolla project and the tools managed by this team. In
>>> fact,
>>> TripleO currently uses kolla images for the containerized nova-compute
>>> deployment.
>>>
>>> I am, however, looking beyond a docker based deployment. I'd like to explore
>>> in
>>> more depth a Kubernetes based deployment of OpenStack. I'm familiar with
>>> both
>>> kolla-kubernetes and fuel-ccp, their structure and direction*. Both projects
>>> have now advanced a bit in their implementations and made some decisions.
>>>
>>> As someone that started looking into this topic just recently, I'd love to
>>> see
>>> our communities collaborate more wherever possible. For example, it'd be
>>> great
>>> to see us working on a reference architecture for deploying OpenStack on
>>> kubernetes, letting the implementation details aside for a bit. I'd assume
>>> some
>>> folks have done this already and I bet we can all learn more from it if we
>>> work
>>> on this together.
>>>
>>> So, let me go ahead and ask some further questions here, I might be missing
>>> some
>>> history and/or context:
>>>
>>> - Is there any public documentation that acts as a reference architecture
>>> for
>>>  deploying OpenStack on kubernetes?
>>> - Is this something the architecture working group could help with? Or would
>>> it
>>>  be better to hijack one of kolla meetings?
>>>
>>> The restult I'd love to see from this collaboration is a reference
>>> architecture
>>> explaining how OpenStack should be run on Kubernetes.
>>
>> At this moment, fuel-ccp-* is an experiment, it's not under
>> governance, there is no expectation of any releases, there are no
>> specs or docs that i know of. So kolla/kolla-kubernetes is probably
>> the best accumulator of kubernetes knowledge specifically about
>> running openstack.
>>
>> Note that tcpcloud folks may also have something, but haven't seen any
>> public information or reference architecture from them. Definitely
>> don't know of any plans from that team as well to open up and share.
>>
>>> Thanks in advance. I look forward to see us collaborate more on this area,
>>> Flavio
>>>
>>> * thanks to all fuel and kolla contributors that helped me understand better
>>> the
>>>  work in each of these projects and the direction they are headed
>>> .
>>> --
>>> @flaper87
>>> Flavio Percoco
>>>
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>> Thanks,
>> Dims
>>
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