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On 9/21/2016 6:56 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote:
> Of late I've been seeing a lot of rather questionable changes that
> appear to be getting blasted out across multiple projects; changes that
> cause considerable code churn, and don't (IMHO) materially improve the
> quality of OpenStack.
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> I’d love to provide a list of the changes that triggered this email but
> I know that this will result in a rat hole where we end up discussing
> the merits of the individual items on the list and lose sight of the
> bigger picture. That won’t help address the question I have below in any
> way, so I’m at a disadvantage of having to describe my issue in abstract
> terms.
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> Here’s how I characterize these changes (changes that meet one or more
> of these criteria):
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> -    Contains little of no information in the commit message (often just
> a single line)
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> -    Makes some generic statement like “Do X not Y”, “Don’t use Z”,
> “Make ABC better” with no further supporting information
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> -    Fail (literally) every single CI job, clearly never tested by the
> developer
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> -    Gets blasted across many projects, literally tens with often the
> same kind of questionable (often wrong) change
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> -    Makes a stylistic python improvement that is not enforced by any
> check (causes a cottage industry of changes making the same correction
> every couple of months)
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> -    Reverses some previous python stylistic improvement with no clear
> reason (another cottage industry)
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> I’ve tried to explain it to myself as enthusiasm, and a desire to
> contribute aggressively; I’ve lapsed into cynicism at times and tried to
> explain it as gaming the numbers system, but all that is merely
> rationalization and doesn’t help.
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> Over time, the result generally is that these developers’ changes get
> ignored. And that’s not a good thing for the community as a whole. We
> want to be a welcoming community and one which values all contributions
> so I’m looking for some suggestions and guidance on how one can work
> with contributors to try and improve the quality of these changes, and
> help the contributor feel that their changes are valued by the project?
> Other more experienced PTL’s, ex-PTL’s, long time open-source-community
> folks, I’m seriously looking for suggestions and ideas.
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> Any and all input is welcome, do other projects see this, how do you
> handle it, is this normal, …
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> Thanks!
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> -amrith
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Nova has a 'how to get involved' wiki, which might be linked from the 
developer docs somewhere:

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring#How_to_Get_Involved

Basically has some high level how to get involved info for nova and some 
of the low hanging fruit efforts going on, like python 3 support, 
mox->mock conversion, unit test cleanup, config option cleanup, api-ref 
docs cleanup, etc.

Obviously this doesn't work if no one sees it or reads it, or 
understands it.

I'm not sure how to prevent someone from blasting the same low-value 
code churn change across a dozen projects before asking any of those 
teams if it's a good idea to begin with. I think that's what Tom Cruise 
was supposed to be for in Minority Report...

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann