[openstack-dev] Too many mails on announce list again :)

Doug Hellmann doug at doughellmann.com
Tue Sep 20 22:27:54 UTC 2016


Excerpts from Morgan Fainberg's message of 2016-09-20 14:38:27 -0700:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-09-20 10:19:04 +0200:
> > > Steve Martinelli wrote:
> > > > I think bundling the puppet, ansible and oslo releases together would
> > > > cut down on a considerable amount of traffic. Bundling or grouping new
> > > > releases may not be the most accurate, but if it encourages the right
> > > > folks to read the content instead of brushing it off, I think thats
> > > > worth while.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I agree that the current "style" of announcing actively trains
> > > people to ignore announces. The trick is that it's non-trivial to
> > > regroup announces (as they are automatically sent as a post-job for each
> > > tag).
> > >
> > > Solutions include:
> > >
> > > * A daily job that catches releases of the day and batches them into a
> > > single announce (issue being you don't get notified as soon as the
> > > release is available, and the announce email ends up being extremely
> > long)
> > >
> > > * A specific -release ML where all announces are posted, with a daily
> > > job to generate an email (one to -announce for services, one to -dev for
> > > libraries) that links to them, without expanding (issue being you don't
> > > have the natural thread in -dev to react to a broken oslo release)
> > >
> > > * Somehow generate the email from the openstack/release request rather
> > > than from the tags
> >
> > One email, with less detail, generated when a file merges into
> > openstack/release is my preference because it's easier to implement.
> >
> > Alternately we could move all of the announcements we have now to
> > a new -release list and folks that only want one email a day can
> > subscribe using digest delivery. Of course they could do that with
> > the list we have now, too.
> >
> > Doug
> >
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> 
> A release list makes a lot of sense. If you also include clear metadata in
> the subject such as including the owning project aka: keystone (for
> keystone auth, keystonemiddleware, keystoneclient), people can do direct
> filtering for what they care about ( as well digest mode).
> 
> --/morgan

We do that now. All of the announcements include the tag [new], the
tag for the project team that owns the deliverable, the name of the
deliverable, and the series for which it is being released.

Doug



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