Open Stack

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
> 
> Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-09-12 08:53:58 +0200:
>> Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>> Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 14:30:29 -0400:
>>>>> To me, this statement
>>>>> about One OpenStack is about emphasizing those commonalities and
>>>>> working together to increase them, with the combined goals of
>>>>> improving the user and operator experience of using OpenStack and
>>>>> improving our own experience of making it.
>>>> 
>>>> +1000 to the above, and I don't believe anything about my stance that 
>>>> OpenStack should be a cloud toolkit goes against that.
>>>> 
>>>> The wording/philosophy that I disagree with is the "one product" thing :)
>>> 
>>> Tomato, tomato.
>>> 
>>> We're all, I think, looking at this "One OpenStack" principle from
>>> different perspectives.  You say "a toolkit". I say "a project".
>>> Thierry said "a product". The important word in all of those phrases
>>> is "a" -- as in singular.
>> 
>> FWIW I agree with Jay that the wording "a product" is definitely
>> outdated and does not represent the current reality. "Product"
>> presupposes a level of integration that we never achieved, and which is,
>> in my opinion, not desirable at this stage. I think that saying "a
>> framework" would be more accurate today. Something like "OpenStack is
>> one community with one common mission, producing one framework of
>> collaborating components" would capture my thinking.
>> 
> 
> From the perspective of what we are delivering, I can go along with
> either "toolkit" or "framework." Do those terms capture the spirit
> of the original meaning, though, when considered from a governance
> perspective? Aren't we trying to say that we're a single community,
> too?

And of course re-reading I see you said “community” right there at the start.
I should probably not be doing code reviews today, either. ;-)

Doug