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On 05.09.2016 18:33, Timofei Durakov wrote:
> Hi, folks,
> 
> Thanks, Markus, for doing this job! I'm interested in this activity.
> 
> Timofey

Awesome! Thanks a ton! We can use https://appear.in/os-nova-bugs for a
kickoff. I'll catch up with you in IRC for finding time and date. I'm in
the UTC+1 timezone.

> 
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Le 05/09/2016 13:19, Markus Zoeller a écrit :
>>
>>> TL;DR: bug czar role for Nova is vacant from now on
>>>
>>>
>>> After doing bug triage for ~1 year, which was quiet interesting, it's
>>> time for me to move to different topics. My tasks within the company
>>> internal team are shifting too. Unfortunately less Nova for me in the
>>> next (hopefully short) time. That means I'm resigning from the bug czar
>>> role as of now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Observations in this timeframe
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> * The quality of most of the bug reports could be better. Very often
>>> they are not actionable. A bug report which isn't actionable burns
>>> resources without any benefit. The pattern I've seen is:
>>>      * 1/3 : invalid because they are support requests or a wrong
>>> understanding
>>>      * 1/3 : could be reasonable but essential information is missing
>>>      * 1/3 : sounds reasonable + has a little info, should be looked at
>>>    Very few follow this template which is shown when you open a new
>>> report: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugsTeam/BugReportTemplate
>>>
>>> * We get ~40 new bug reports per week. With the current number of people
>>> who do bug triage, the number of overall bug reports doesn't decline. I
>>> started collecting data 6 months ago:
>>>
>>> http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs?from=
>>> now-6M&panelId=1&fullscreen
>>>
>>> * I wish the cores would engage more in bug triaging. If one core every
>>> other week would do the bug triage for 1 week, a core would have to do
>>> that only once per dev cycle. I'm aware of the review backlog though :/
>>>
>>> * I wish more non-cores would engage more in bug triaging.
>>>
>>> * We don't have contacts for a lot of areas in Nova:
>>>    https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tag_Owner_List
>>>
>>> * Keeping the bug reports in a consistent state is cumbersome:
>>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale
>>>    We could introduce more automation here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Things we should continue
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>> * Bug reports older that the oldest supported stable release should be
>>>    expired. Maybe best when the EOL tag gets applied.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master
>>> /expire_old_bug_reports.py
>>>    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May
>>> /095654.html
>>>
>>> * We never came to a real conclusion how the ops communicated the RFEs
>>> to us. The way of using "wishlist" bug reports wasn't successful IMO.
>>> The last proposal was to use the ops ML to bring an RFE into some
>>> actionable shape and then create a backlog spec out of it.
>>>    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-Mar
>>> ch/089365.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Things we should start
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> * A cross-project discussion of (easy) ways to collect and send debug
>>> data to upstream OpenStack. Almost no bug report in Nova had the result
>>> of "sosreport" attached although we ask for that in the report template.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some last words
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> * Whoever wants to do the job next, I offer some kind of onboarding.
>>>
>>> * I'll push a change to remove the IRC meetings in the next few days:
>>>    http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Bugs_Team_Meeting
>>>
>>> * The tooling I used will still be available at:
>>>    https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/tree/master/
>>> scripts/launchpad
>>>
>>> * My server which hosts some dashboards will still be available at:
>>>    http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs
>>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html
>>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-stats.html
>>>
>>> * I did an evaluation of Storyboard in July 2016 and it looks promising.
>>> Give it a shot at: https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project/2 If
>>> you don't like something there, push a change, it's Python based.
>>>
>>> * I'll still hang out in the IRC channels, but don't expect much from me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot to the people who helped making Nova a better project by
>>> doing bug triage! Special thanks to auggy who put a lot(!) of effort
>>> into that.
>>>
>>> See you (hopefully) in Barcelona!
>>>
>>
>> As said on IRC, hope we'll still see you around, and see you in Barcelona.
>> You made a great job !
>>
>> -Sylvain
>>
>>
>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Markus Zoeller (markus_z)
>>>
>>>
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