[openstack-dev] [all] Embracing new languages in OpenStack

Doug Wiegley dougwig at parksidesoftware.com
Thu Nov 10 15:39:54 UTC 2016

> On Nov 10, 2016, at 7:24 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Chris Dent <cdent+os at anticdent.org <mailto:cdent+os at anticdent.org>> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Ash wrote:
> I couldn't agree more. I don't like change for the sake of change (in any
> aspect of my life). So in my mind this would have to be a way to better
> bind us.
> Here, have some tortured metaphors:
> Something that feels like it gets under-emphasised in this conversation
> is that change is coming whatever we do. As a community we can either
> move quickly and stay ahead of the change and see it as a productive
> development that we can surf or we can dilly dally and get drowned by a
> wave that collapses over us.
> Ecosystems must evolve and change because the world evolves and changes.
> If we try to control this stuff too much what we will be doing is taking
> the oxygen out of the system and snuffing the flame of excitement and
> innovation.
> As a community we don't want to be bound together by rules, we want
> to be enabled by processes that support making and doing things
> effectively. The things that we make and do is what binds us
> together.
> The conversations about additional languages in this community have
> been one our most alarmingly regressive and patronizing. They seem
> to be bred out of fear rather than hope and out of lack of faith in
> each other than in trust. We've got people who want to build stuff.
> Isn't that the important part?
> Let's just get on with making stuff and work out the problems (and of
> course there will be many, there always are) as they happen. That's
> what we do.
> ​Agreed, Chris.  I think this topic has reflected quite poorly on OpenStack, so far.

Also agreed. Like it or not, this topic is a proxy debate for whether it’s worth the risk to invest in OpenStack for new things. And doubling down on more process is not sending a great message.


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