[openstack-dev] [kuryr][magnum] Notes from Summit fishbowl session

Vikas Choudhary choudharyvikas16 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 3 03:29:56 UTC 2016


On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <celebdor at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi magna and kuryrs!
>
> Thank you all for joining last week meetings. I am now writing a few
> emails to have persistent notes of what was talked about and discussed
> in the Kuryr work sessions. In the Magnum joint session the points
> were:
>
>     Kuryr - Magnum joint work session
>     =================================
>
>     Authentication
>     ==============
>
>     * Consensus on using Keystone trust tokens.
>         - We should follow closely the Keystone effort into scoping the
> allowed
>           actions per token to limit those to the minimal required set of
> verbs
>           that the COE and Kuryr need.
>
>     * It was deemed unnecessary to pursue a proxying approach to access
>       Neutron. This means VM applications should be able to reach Neutron
> and
>       Keystone but the only source of credentials they should have is the
>       Keystone tokens.
>
>
>     Tenancy and network topology
>     ============================
>
>     Two approaches should be made available to users:
>
>     Full Neutron networking
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>     Under this configuration, containers running inside the nova instances
>     would get networking via Neutron vlan-aware-VMs feature. This means
> the COE
>     driver (either kuryr-libnetwork or kuryr-kubernetes) would request a
>     Neutron subport for the container. In this way, there can be multiple
>     isolated networks running on worker nodes.
>
>     The concerns about this solution are about the performance when
> starting
>     big amounts of containers and the latency introduced when starting
> them due
>     to going all the way to Neutron to request the subport.
>
>     Minimal Neutron networking
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
Is this ipvlan/macvlan approach?


>     In order to address the concerns with the 'Full Neutron networking'
>     approach, and as a trade-off between features and minimalism, this way
> of
>     networking the containers would all be in the same Neutron network as
> the
>     ports of their VMs.
>
>     The problem with this solution is that allowing multiple isolated
> networks
>     like CNM and Kubernetes with policy have is quite complicated.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Toni
>
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