[openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
Ihar Hrachyshka
ihrachys at redhat.com
Mon May 16 12:00:42 UTC 2016
+1 for earlier time. But also, have we booked any channel for the meeting? Hijacking #openstack-neutron may not work fine during such a busy (US) time. I suggest we propose a patch for https://github.com/openstack-infra/irc-meetings
Ihar
> On 10 May 2016, at 20:35, Cathy Zhang <Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com> wrote:
>
> It is always hard to find a day and time that is good for everyone around the globe:-)
> The first meeting will still be UTC 1700 ~ UTC 1800 May 17 on Neutron channel.
> In the meeting, we can see if we can reach consensus on a new meeting time.
>
> Cathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takashi Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto at midokura.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:40 AM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:41 AM, <thomas.morin at orange.com> wrote:
>> Hi Cathy,
>>
>> Cathy Zhang:
>>>
>>> I will tentatively set the meeting time to UTC 1700 ~ UTC 1800 Tuesday.
>>> Hope this time is good for all people who have interest and like to
>>> contribute to this work. We plan to start the first meeting on May 17.
>>
>>
>> I would be happy to participate, but I'm unlikely to be able to attend
>> at that time.
>> Might 15:00 UTC work for others ?
>
> +1 for earlier
>
>> If not, well, I'll make do with log/emails/pads/gerrit interactions.
>>
>> -Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cathy Zhang
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:43 AM
>>> To: Cathy Zhang; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>> questions); Ihar Hrachyshka; Vikram Choudhary; Sean M. Collins; Haim
>>> Daniel; Mathieu Rohon; Shaughnessy, David; Eichberger, German; Henry
>>> Fourie; armamig at gmail.com; Miguel Angel Ajo; Reedip; Thierry Carrez
>>> Cc: Cathy Zhang
>>> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We have room 400 at 3:10pm on Thursday available for discussion of
>>> the two topics.
>>> Another option is to use the common room with roundtables in "Salon C"
>>> during Monday or Wednesday lunch time.
>>>
>>> Room 400 at 3:10pm is a closed room while the Salon C is a big open
>>> room which can host 500 people.
>>>
>>> I am Ok with either option. Let me know if anyone has a strong preference.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cathy Zhang
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 1:23 PM
>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions);
>>> 'Ihar Hrachyshka'; Vikram Choudhary; 'Sean M. Collins'; 'Haim
>>> Daniel'; 'Mathieu Rohon'; 'Shaughnessy, David'; 'Eichberger, German';
>>> Cathy Zhang; Henry Fourie; 'armamig at gmail.com'
>>> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>
>>> Thanks for everyone's reply!
>>>
>>> Here is the summary based on the replies I received:
>>>
>>> 1. We should have a meet-up for these two topics. The "to" list are
>>> the people who have interest in these topics.
>>> I am thinking about around lunch time on Tuesday or Wednesday
>>> since some of us will fly back on Friday morning/noon.
>>> If this time is OK with everyone, I will find a place and let
>>> you know where and what time to meet.
>>>
>>> 2. There is a bug opened for the QoS Flow Classifier
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1527671
>>> We can either change the bug title and modify the bug details or
>>> start with a new one for the common FC which provides info on all
>>> requirements needed by all relevant use cases. There is a bug opened
>>> for OVS agent extension
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1517903
>>>
>>> 3. There are some very rough, ugly as Sean put it:-), and
>>> preliminary work on common FC
>>> https://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier which we can see how
>>> to leverage. There is also a SFC API spec which covers the FC API for
>>> SFC usage
>>> https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/doc/source/ap
>>> i.rst, the following is the CLI version of the Flow Classifier for
>>> your
>>> reference:
>>>
>>> neutron flow-classifier-create [-h]
>>> [--description <description>]
>>> [--protocol <protocol>]
>>> [--ethertype <Ethertype>]
>>> [--source-port <Minimum source protocol port>:<Maximum
>>> source protocol port>]
>>> [--destination-port <Minimum destination protocol
>>> port>:<Maximum destination protocol port>]
>>> [--source-ip-prefix <Source IP prefix>]
>>> [--destination-ip-prefix <Destination IP prefix>]
>>> [--logical-source-port <Neutron source port>]
>>> [--logical-destination-port <Neutron destination port>]
>>> [--l7-parameters <L7 parameter>] FLOW-CLASSIFIER-NAME
>>>
>>> The corresponding code is here
>>> https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/tree/master/networking_sf
>>> c/extensions
>>>
>>> 4. We should come up with a formal Neutron spec for FC and another
>>> one for OVS Agent extension and get everyone's review and approval.
>>> Here is the etherpad catching our previous requirement discussion on
>>> OVS agent (Thanks David for the link! I remember we had this
>>> discussion before)
>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/l2-agent-extensions-api-expansion
>>>
>>>
>>> More inline.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ihar Hrachyshka [mailto:ihrachys at redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 3:34 AM
>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>
>>> Cathy Zhang <Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> Per Armando’s request, Louis and I are looking into the following
>>>> features for Newton cycle.
>>>> · Neutron Common FC used for SFC, QoS, Tap as a service etc.,
>>>> · OVS Agent extension
>>>> Some of you might know that we already developed a FC in
>>>> networking-sfc project and QoS also has a FC. It makes sense that we
>>>> have one common FC in Neutron that could be shared by SFC, QoS, Tap
>>>> as a service etc.
>>>> features in Neutron.
>>>
>>> I don’t actually know of any classifier in QoS. It’s only planned to
>>> emerge, but there are no specs or anything specific to the feature.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I agree that classifier API belongs to core neutron and
>>> should be reused by all interested subprojects from there.
>>>
>>>> Different features may extend OVS agent and add different new OVS
>>>> flow tables to support their new functionality. A mechanism is
>>>> needed to ensure consistent OVS flow table modification when
>>>> multiple features co-exist. AFAIK, there is some preliminary work on
>>>> this, but it is not a complete solution yet.
>>>
>>> I think there is no formal spec or anything, just some emails around
>>> there.
>>>
>>> That said, I don’t follow why it’s a requirement for SFC to switch to
>>> l2 agent extension mechanism. Even today, with SFC maintaining its
>>> own agent, there are no clear guarantees for flow priorities that
>>> would avoid all possible conflicts.
>>>
>>> Cathy> There is no requirement for SFC to switch. My understanding is
>>> Cathy> that
>>> current L2 agent extension does not solve the conflicting entry issue
>>> if two features inject the same priority table entry. I think this
>>> new L2 agent effort is try to come up with a mechanism to resolve
>>> this issue. Of course if each feature( SFC or Qos) uses its own
>>> agent, then there is no coordination and no way to avoid conflicts.
>>>
>>>> We will like to start these effort by collecting requirements and
>>>> then posting specifications for review. If any of you would like to
>>>> join this effort, please chime in. We can set up a meet-up session
>>>> in the Summit to discuss this face-in-face.
>>>
>>> Great. Let’s have a meetup for this topic.
>>>
>>> Ihar
>>>
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