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Hi fuelers,

only few hours left until period of self-nomination will be closed, but so
far we don't have neither consensus regarding how to proceed further nor
candidates.

I've increased period of self-nomination for another week (until April 7,
23:59 UTC) and expect to have decision about how we are going to proceed
further if no one nominate himself or candidates for each of the three
projects.

I propose to start with defining steps that we are going to take if no one
nominate himself by April 7 and move forward with separate discussion
regarding governance.

P.S. I strongly believe that declaring Component Leads role as obsolete
require agreement among all members of Fuel team, which may take quite a
lot of time. I think we should propose change-request to existing spec with
governance [0], and have decision by end of Newton cycle.

References:
[0]
https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/fuel-specs/policy/team-structure.html

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if it's a right place to continue this discussion, but if
> there are doubts that such role is needed, we should not wait for another
> half a year to drop it.
>
> Also I'm not sure if a single engineer (or two engineers) can handle
> majority of upcoming patches + specs + meetings around features. Sergii and
> Igor put a lot of efforts to make it work, but does it really scale?
>
> I think it would be better to offload more responsibilities to core
> groups, and if core team (of specific project) wants to see formal or
> informal leader, let them decide.
>
> I would be really interested to see feedback from current component leads.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
> vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>> Dmitry,
>>
>> "No need to rush" does not mean we should postpone
>> team structure changes until Ocata. IMO, CL role
>> (when it is exposed to Fuel) contradicts to our
>> modularization activities. Fuel should be an aggregator
>> of components. What if we decide to use Ironic or
>> Neutron as Fuel components? Should we chose also
>> Ironic CL? NO! Ironic is an independent
>> project with its own PTL.
>>
>> I agree with Mike that we could remove this CL
>> role in a month if have consensus. But does it
>> make any sense to chose CLs now and then
>> immediately remove this role? Probably, it is better
>> to make a decision right now. I'd really like to
>> see here in this ML thread opinions of our current
>> CLs and other people.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Dmitry Borodaenko <
>> dborodaenko at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 03:19:27PM +0300, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote:
>>> > > I think this call is too late to change a structure for now. I
>>> suggest
>>> > > that we always respect the policy we've accepted, and follow it.
>>> > >
>>> > > If Component Leads role is under a question, then I'd continue the
>>> > > discussion, hear opinion of current component leads, and give this a
>>> time
>>> > > to be discussed. I'd have nothing against removing this role in a
>>> month
>>> > > from now if we reach a consensus on this topic - no need to wait for
>>> the
>>> > > cycle end.
>>> >
>>> > Sure, there is no need to rush. I'd also like to see current CL
>>> opinions.
>>>
>>> Considering that, while there's an ongoing discussion on how to change
>>> Fuel team structure for Ocata, there's also an apparent consensus that
>>> we still want to have component leads for Newton, I'd like to call once
>>> again for volunteers to self-nominate for component leads of
>>> fuel-library, fuel-web, and fuel-ui. We've got 2 days left until
>>> nomination period is over, and no volunteer so far :(
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dmitry Borodaenko
>>>
>>>
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