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I *think* it is significantly semanticist different to do detach, attach;
with swap volume, no events are generated in the guest; that is why it is
dangerous to expose to the tenant - if the volume contents is not
identical, you get weird corruption as the guess flushes caches.

I think this call only makes sense for migration, and not anything else,
and trying to do a version of it that does detach,, attach is both
dangerous and unnecessary.

On 31 March 2016 at 05:14, GHANSHYAM MANN <ghanshyammann at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Matt Riedemann
> <mriedem at linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 3/30/2016 8:20 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/30/2016 7:56 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/30/2016 7:38 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/25/2016 5:31 AM, Takashi Natsume wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Nova and Cinder developers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As I reported in a bug report [1], nova swap volume
> >>>>> (updating an attached volume) fuction does not work
> >>>>> in the case of non admin users by default.
> >>>>> (Volumes are stuck.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Before I was working for fixing another swap volume bug [2][3].
> >>>>> But Ryan fixed it on the Cinder side [4].
> >>>>> As a result, admin users can execute swap volume function,
> >>>>> but it was not fixed in the case of non admin users.
> >>>>> So I reported the bug report [1].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the patch[5], I tried to change the default cinder's policy
> >>>>> to allow non admin users to execute migrate_volume_completion API.
> >>>>> But it was rejected by the cinder project ('-2' was voted).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the patch[5], it was suggested to make the swap volume API admin
> >>>>> only
> >>>>> on the Nova side.
> >>>>> But IMO, the swap volume function should be allowed to non admin
> users
> >>>>> because attaching a volume and detaching a volume can be performed
> >>>>> by non admin users.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree with this. DuncanT said in IRC that he didn't think non-admin
> >>>> users should be using the swap-volume API in nova because it can be
> >>>> problematic, but I'm not sure why, is there more history or detail
> >>>> there? I'd think it shouldn't be any worse than doing a detach/attach
> in
> >>>> quick succession (like in a CI test for example).
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If migrate_volume_completion is only allowed to admin users
> >>>>> by default on the Cinder side, attaching a new volume and
> >>>>> detaching an old volume should be performed on the Nova side
> >>>>> when swapping volumes.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> My understanding of the problem is as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Admin-initiated volume migration in Cinder calls off to Nova to
> >>>> perform the swap-volume, and then Nova calls back to Cinder's
> >>>> migrate_volume_completion API. This is fine since it's an admin that
> >>>> initiated this series of operations on the Cinder side (that's by
> >>>> default, however, this is broken if the policy file for Cinder is
> change
> >>>> to allow non-admins to migrate volumes).
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. A non-admin swap-volume API call in Nova fails because Nova blindly
> >>>> makes the migrate_volume_completion call to Cinder which fails with a
> >>>> 403 because the Cinder API policy has that as an admin action by
> >>>> default.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know the history around when the swap-volume API was added to
> >>>> Nova, was it specifically for this volume migration scenario in
> Cinder?
> >>>>   Are there other use cases?  Knowing those would be good to determine
> >>>> if Nova should change it's default policy for swap-volume, although,
> >>>> again, that's only a default and can be changed per deployment so we
> >>>> probably shouldn't rely on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally we would have implemented this like the nova/neutron server
> >>>> events callback API in Nova during vif plugging (nova does the vif
> plug
> >>>> on the host then waits for neutron to update it's database for the
> port
> >>>> status and sends an event (API call) to nova to continue booting the
> >>>> server). That server events API in nova is admin-only by default and
> >>>> neutron is configured with admin credentials for nova to use it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another option would be for Nova to handle a 403 response when calling
> >>>> Cinder's migrate_volume_completion API and ignore it if we don't have
> an
> >>>> admin context. This is pretty hacky though. It assumes that it's a
> >>>> non-admin user initiating the swap-volume operation. It wouldn't be a
> >>>> problem for the volume migration operation initiated in Cinder since
> by
> >>>> default that's admin-only, so nova shouldn't get a 403 when calling
> >>>> migrate_volume_completion. The trap would be if the cinder policy for
> >>>> volume migration was changed to allow non-admins, but if someone did
> >>>> that, they should also change the policy for migrate_volume_completion
> >>>> to allow non-admin too.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have a good idea, please let me know it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] Cinder volumes are stuck when non admin user executes nova swap
> >>>>> volume API
> >>>>>      https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1522705
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [2] Cinder volume stuck in swap_volume
> >>>>>      https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1471098
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [3] Fix cinder volume stuck in swap_volume
> >>>>>      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207385/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [4] Fix swap_volume for case without migration
> >>>>>      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247767/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [5] Enable volume owners to execute migrate_volume_completion
> >>>>>      https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253363/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Takashi Natsume
> >>>>> NTT Software Innovation Center
> >>>>> E-mail: natsume.takashi at lab.ntt.co.jp
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
> >>> I also just checked Tempest and apparently we have no coverage for the
> >>> swap-volume API in Nova, we should fix that as part of this.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I've done some more digging. The swap-volume functionality was added to
> >> nova here [1].  The cinder use of it for volume migration was added here
> >> [2].
> >>
> >> Looking at the cinder volume API for migrate_volume_completion, it
> >> expects the source (old) volume to have migration_status set [3].
> >>
> >> So, I think we can easily fix this in Nova by simply not calling
> >> volume_migration_completion if old_volume['migration_status'] is None.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/8f51b120b430c7c21399256f37e1d8f75d030484
> >>
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/0e4bd7f93b9bfadcc2bb6dfaeae7bb5ee00c194b
> >>
> >> [3]
> >>
> >>
> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cinder/tree/cinder/volume/api.py#n1358
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Of course that had to be too easy to be true. The volume
> 'migration_status'
> > is only returned for the volume details if you're calling with an admin
> > context [1].
> >
> > I think we can still use this, we just can't expect
> > volume['migration_status'] to be in the response from the volume GET. If
> > it's not there, we can assume we're not doing a migration and we're not
> an
> > admin anyway, so we can't call migrate_volume_completion.
>
> So in that case, we need to attach, detach volume on nova side right?
> I mean if migrate_volume_completion is not being called then
> new volume attachment and old volume detachment should be initiated
> explicitly.
>
> Can we make Nova default policy same as cinder, i mean swap volume
> allowed only for admin? Because if there is simple swap initiated from
> nova(not cinder migration), Nova allow that operation for non-admin
> user and get stuck to attaching/detaching status.
>
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cinder/tree/cinder/api/v2/views/volumes.py#n82-L84
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Matt Riedemann
> >
> >
> >
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