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On 04/03/16 14:12 -0500, Nikhil Komawar wrote:
>Surely you can directly use the standard libraries to test systemwide
>but I am more curious to know if there are some who are still using
>run_tests wrappings that exist for to ease the pain a bit.

Oh, sorry if I came off wrong. What I meant is that if you have glance installed
systemwide, you'd be better off running the command found in tox.ini rather than
running `run_tests.sh`. One reason is that one point in favor to `tox` and even
`run_tests.sh` itself is isolating test environments. Other than that, I don't
think they provide much other benefits over just running testr directly (which I
sometimes do).

Hope that's clearer,
Flavio

>On 3/4/16 12:41 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote:
>> On 04/03/16 11:59 -0500, Nikhil Komawar wrote:
>>> I think the hard question to me here is:
>>>
>>> Do people care about testing code on system installs vs. virtual env?
>>> run_tests does that and for some cases when you want to be extra sure
>>> about your CICD nodes, packaging and upgrades, the problem is solved.
>>>
>>> Are packagers using tox to this purpose?
>>
>> TBH, if you're testing things without venvs and sytemwide, I think
>> it'd be far
>> easier to just call nosetests/testr directly in your system than
>> calling the
>> run_tests script.
>>
>> Some packages don't even ship tests.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Flavio
>>
>>> On 3/4/16 11:16 AM, Steve Martinelli wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The keystone team did the same during Liberty while we were moving
>>>> towards using oslo.* projects instead of oslo-incubator [0]. We also
>>>> noticed that they were rarely used, and we did not go through a
>>>> deprecation process since these are developer tools. We're still
>>>> finding a few spots in our docs that need updating, but overall it was
>>>> an easy transition.
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>> https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/55e9514cbd4e712e2c317335294355cf1596d870
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> stevemar
>>>>
>>>> Inactive hide details for Flavio Percoco ---2016/03/04 06:51:47
>>>> AM---Hey Folks, I'm looking at doing some cleanups in our repo Flavio
>>>> Percoco ---2016/03/04 06:51:47 AM---Hey Folks, I'm looking at doing
>>>> some cleanups in our repo and I would like to start by
>>>>
>>>> From: Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com>
>>>> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>>> Cc: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
>>>> Date: 2016/03/04 06:51 AM
>>>> Subject: [Openstack-operators] [glance] Remove `run_tests.sh` and
>>>> `tools/*`
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at doing some cleanups in our repo and I would like to
>>>> start by
>>>> deprecating the `run_tests` script and the contents in the `tools/`
>>>> dir.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell, no one is using this code - we're not even using
>>>> it in the
>>>> gate - as it was broken until recently, I believe. The recommended way
>>>> to run
>>>> tests is using `tox` and I believe having this script in the code base
>>>> misleads
>>>> new contributors and other users.
>>>>
>>>> So, before we do this. I wanted to get feedback from a broader
>>>> audience and give
>>>> a heads up to folks that might be using this code.
>>>>
>>>> Any objections? Something I'm missing?
>>>>
>>>> Flavio
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> @flaper87
>>>> Flavio Percoco
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Nikhil
>>>
>>
>
>-- 
>
>Thanks,
>Nikhil
>

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Flavio Percoco
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