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On 13 June 2016 at 10:35, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 05:31:13PM -0600, Carl Baldwin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > You may or may not be aware of the vlan-aware-vms effort [1] in
> > Neutron.  If not, there is a spec and a fair number of patches in
> > progress for this.  Essentially, the goal is to allow a VM to connect
> > to multiple Neutron networks by tagging traffic on a single port with
> > VLAN tags.
> >
> > This effort will have some effect on vif plugging because the datapath
> > will include some changes that will effect how vif plugging is done
> > today.
> >
> > The design proposal for trunk ports with OVS adds a new bridge for
> > each trunk port.  This bridge will demux the traffic and then connect
> > to br-int with patch ports for each of the networks.  Rawlin Peters
> > has some ideas for expanding the vif capability to include this
> > wiring.
> >
> > There is also a proposal for connecting to linux bridges by using
> > kernel vlan interfaces.
> >
> > This effort is pretty important to Neutron in the Newton timeframe.  I
> > wanted to send this out to start rounding up the reviewers and other
> > participants we need to see how we can start putting together a plan
> > for nova integration of this feature (via os-vif?).
>
> I've not taken a look at the proposal, but on the timing side of things
> it is really way to late to start this email thread asking for design
> input from os-vif or nova. We're way past the spec proposal deadline
> for Nova in the Newton cycle, so nothing is going to happen until the
> Ocata cycle no matter what Neutron want  in Newton.


For sake of clarity, does this mean that the management of the os-vif
project matches exactly Nova's, e.g. same deadlines and processes apply,
even though the core team and its release model are different from Nova's?
I may have erroneously implied that it wasn't, also from past talks I had
with johnthetubaguy.

Perhaps the answer to this question is clearly stated somewhere else, but I
must have missed it. I want to make sure I ask explicitly now to avoid
future confusion.

For os-vif our
> focus right now is exclusively on getting existing functionality ported
> over, and integrated into Nova in Newton. So again we're not really looking
> to spend time on further os-vif design work right now.
>
> In the Ocata cycle we'll be looking to integrate os-vif into Neutron to
> let it directly serialize VIF objects and send them over to Nova, instead
> of using the ad-hoc port-binding dicts.  From the Nova side, we're not
> likely to want to support any new functionality that affects port-binding
> data until after Neutron is converted to os-vif. So Ocata at the earliest,
> but probably more like Pxxxx, unless the Neutron conversion to os-vif gets
> completed unexpectedly quickly.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
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