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> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 1 June 2016 at 02:28, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org> wrote:
> Armando M. wrote:
> Having looked at the recent commit volume that has been going into the
> *-aas repos, I am considering changing the release model for
> neutron-vpnaas, neutron-fwaas, neutron-lbaas
> from release:cycle-with-milestones [1] to
> release:cycle-with-intermediary [2]. This change will allow us to avoid
> publishing a release at fixed times when there's nothing worth releasing.
> 
> I commented on the review, but I think it's easier to discuss this here...
> 
> Beyond changing the release model, what you're proposing here is to remove functionality from an existing deliverable ("neutron" which was a combination of openstack/neutron and openstack/neutron-*aas, released together) and making the *aas things separate deliverables.
> 
> All I wanted to do is change the release model of the *-aas projects, without side effects. I appreciate that the governance structure doesn't seem to allow this easily, and I am looking for guidance.
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> From a Defcore perspective, the trademark programs include the "neutron" deliverable. So the net effect for DefCore is that you remove functionality -- and removing functionality from a Defcore-used project needs extra care and heads-up time.
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> To the best of my knowledge none of the *-aas projects are part of defcore, and since [1] has no presence of vpn, fw, lb, nor planned, I thought I was on the safe side.
> 

Thanks for checking.  You are correct: LBaaS, VPNaaS, and FWaaS capabilities are not present in existing Board-approved DefCore Guidelines, nor have they been proposed for the next one. [2]

[2] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/defcore/tree/next.json

At Your Service,

Mark T. Voelker
DefCore Committee Co-Chair

> 
> It's probably fine to remove *-aas from the neutron deliverable if there is no Defcore capability or designated section there (current or planned). Otherwise we need to have a longer conversation that is likely to extend beyond the release model deadline tomorrow.
> 
> I could not see one in [1]
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> [1] https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2016.01.json 
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> -- 
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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