[openstack-dev] [kolla] Monitoring tooling

Stephen Hindle shindle at llnw.com
Sat Jul 23 19:51:38 UTC 2016


My understanding was Sensu could produce metrics ?
And Kapacitor can do alerting for the TICK stack stuff mewald is doing...
I really don't see them as that different ?


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Dave Walker <email at daviey.com> wrote:
> Yes, this is my thought.
>
> The scope of the Sensu work is: "Is this thing working?" (with the reference
> being up/down)
> But the scope of the Grafana and friends is, "How hard is this working?"
> (but no alerting)
>
> They are certainly complementary.... However, Sensu can throw data at a
> Grafana stack (aiui).. but I fear that is too much to achieve this cycle.
>
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> Dave Walker
>
> On 23 July 2016 at 00:11, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov> wrote:
>>
>> I think those are two different, complementary things.
>>
>> One's metrics and the other is monitoring. You probably want both at the
>> same time.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Steven Dake (stdake) [stdake at cisco.com]
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>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Monitoring tooling
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>> Thanks for pointing that out.  Brain out to lunch today it appears :(
>>
>> I think choices are a good thing even though they increase our
>> implementation footprint.  Anyone opposed to implementing both with
>> something in globals.yml like
>> monitoring: grafana or
>> monitoring: sensu
>>
>> Comments questions or concerns welcome.
>>
>> Regards
>> -steve
>>
>> On 7/22/16, 3:42 PM, "Stephen Hindle" <shindle at llnw.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Don't forget mewalds implementation as well - we now have 2 monitoring
>> >options for kolla :-)
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <stdake at cisco.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Hi folks,
>> >>
>> >> At the midcycle we decided to push off implementing Monitoring until
>> >>post
>> >> Newton.  The rationale for this decision was that the core review team
>> >>has
>> >> enough on their plates and nobody was super keen to implement any
>> >>monitoring
>> >> solution given our other priorities.
>> >>
>> >> Like all good things, communities produce new folks that want to do new
>> >> things, and Sensu was proposed as Kolla's monitoring solution (atleast
>> >>the
>> >> first one).  A developer that has done some good work has shown up to
>> >>do the
>> >> job as well :)  I have heard good things about Sensu, minus the fact
>> >>that it
>> >> is implemented in Ruby and I fear it may end up causing our gate a lot
>> >>of
>> >> hassle.
>> >>
>> >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341861/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anyway I think we can work through the gate problem.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have any better suggestion?  I'd like to unblock Dave's
>> >> work
>> >> which is blocked on a ­2 pending a complete discussion of our
>> >> monitoring
>> >> solution.  Note we may end up implementing more than one down the road
>> >> ­
>> >> Sensu is just where the original interest was.
>> >>
>> >> Please provide feedback, even if you don't have a preference, whether
>> >>your a
>> >> core reviewer or not.
>> >>
>> >> My take is we can merge this work in non-prioirty order, and if it
>> >>makes the
>> >> end of the cycle fantastic ­ if not, we can release it in Ocatta.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> -steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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