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I would not check that. We are not talking about installing browser plugins when users may not know what they want. Putting extra checks will create a more fool-proof but less configurable software. I’d vote for letting users shoot their feet using their plugins but making Fuel more flexible.


> 29 січ. 2016 р. о 15:05 Aleksey Kasatkin <akasatkin at mirantis.com> написав(ла):
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> > jsonpatch
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> There were +1's regarding overriding VIPs above. I'd stick with that. It is done for tasks now. But we will need to check conflicts between plugins there (as for tasks).
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> Aleksey Kasatkin
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> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Roman Prykhodchenko <me at romcheg.me <mailto:me at romcheg.me>> wrote:
> Frankly, I have not though about how to deal with multiple plugins yet. However, what I think is that we must not restrict this too much and let users configure it more flexibly even if it allows to shoot one’s foot. Perhaps we can add a per-cluster priority for enabled plugins which users can configure via UI, CLI or API. My other thought is that we should not invent our own mechanics for changing a configuration and use an existing one, say, jsonpatch. What do you guys think?
> 
> P. S. [0] is really needed for 8.0 for implementing an important epic, so please check it out. If it does not break anything, lets merge it ASAP.
> 
> - romcheg
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>> 28 січ. 2016 р. о 18:30 Aleksey Kasatkin <akasatkin at mirantis.com <mailto:akasatkin at mirantis.com>> написав(ла):
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>> AFAIC, it is better to remove by name then. Otherwise, you do not know what VIPs you are removing.
>> Another option - remove "built-in" VIPs using some specific expression.
>> Anyway, you do not know where other VIPs (VIPs of other plugins) live so you cannot remove them this way.
>> 
>> And the order of plugins processing is not defined so there is no warranty you will remove all VIPs on those network roles.
>> Seems, checking for such conflict between plugins is needed.
>> 
>> The original goal, actually, was to remove VIPs for controllers (or for some particular node role, maybe),
>> so we should maybe find a way to do exactly this.
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>> 
>> Aleksey Kasatkin
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>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Aleksandr Didenko <adidenko at mirantis.com <mailto:adidenko at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> > How are we handling this now for multiple plugins?
>> 
>> OK, so right now we can only add VIPs to array, we can't remove them. So overriding would disable such possibility of adding VIPs from different plugins. But with [0] patch it will be still possible to add and to remove by providing empty array. But we'll have the problem with multiple plugins in such case.
>> I've changed my mind :) I vote for leaving as in [0] since it's less destructive comparing to what we have now.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Alex
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>> [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273169/1 <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273169/1>
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>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Aleksandr Didenko <adidenko at mirantis.com <mailto:adidenko at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> Well, with merging instead of overriding, I believe, this problem with multiple plugins still exists, right? How are we handling this now for multiple plugins?
>> Since VIPs is array I also vote for overriding, since merging it could be a pain (how do you remove existing element during array merge?).
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Aleksey Kasatkin <akasatkin at mirantis.com <mailto:akasatkin at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> Roman, please provide more details on how VIPs are overridden. And how do you deal with multiple plugins.
>> 
>> 
>> Aleksey Kasatkin
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>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Aleksey Kasatkin <akasatkin at mirantis.com <mailto:akasatkin at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> Good idea, overally.
>> 
>> How about multiple plugins? We don't have any sequence or priorities between them.
>> What if one plugin assumes that VIP is present but other one wants to remove it?
>> 
>> 
>> Aleksey Kasatkin
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>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Sergii Golovatiuk <sgolovatiuk at mirantis.com <mailto:sgolovatiuk at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> +1 to overriding VIPs
>> 
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>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <vkuklin at mirantis.com <mailto:vkuklin at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>> +1 to overriding VIPs
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Roman Prykhodchenko <me at romcheg.me <mailto:me at romcheg.me>> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> currently merge policy for network roles only allows to add new VIPs to already existing roles [1]. If a plugin supplies a VIP with a name that already exists but with different parameters, Nailgun will not allow to do that. We faced a need to override configuration of several VIPs by completely removing them from network roles by supplying something like [2]. To enable that I’ve made a temporary workaround [3] to the merging policy that only handles one cornerstone.
>> 
>> I’ve talked to ikalnitsky and we realized that this functionality of merging new VIPs from plugins to an existing network role is actually wrong and should be replaced by complete overriding. Let’s discuss this possibility here.
>> 
>> 
>> References:
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>> 1. https://github.com/openstack/fuel-web/blob/master/nailgun/nailgun/policy/merge.py#L55 <https://github.com/openstack/fuel-web/blob/master/nailgun/nailgun/policy/merge.py#L55>
>> 2. http://xsnippet.org/361361/ <http://xsnippet.org/361361/>
>> 3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273169/1 <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273169/1>
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