[openstack-dev] OpenStack-Announce List

Tom Fifield tom at openstack.org
Thu Jan 14 07:32:42 UTC 2016


On 14/01/16 15:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On 2016-01-14 08:13, Tom Fifield wrote:
>> So, I'm prompted by another 20 oslo release emails to dredge up this
>> thread :)
>>
>> There appears to be broad consensus that those shouldn't be going to the
>> announce list ... what do we need to do to get that to change to posted
>> to "-dev + batched inside the weekly -dev digest from thingee" as
>> Thierry suggested?
>
> So, those 20 odd olso release emails all went to -dev, the release team
> changed the logic, see also
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083749.html

Apologies to all. Maybe its time to visit the optometrist for me ... I 
haven't been once in my life yet, could be scary :)


> Not sure about the "Batching inside the weekly digest from thingee",
>
> Andreas
>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 14/12/15 17:12, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>> ... and back to this thread after a few weeks :)
>>>
>>> The conclusions I saw were:
>>> * Audience for openstack-announce should be "users/non-dev"
>>> * Service project releases announcements are good
>>> * Client library release announcements good
>>> * Security announcements are good
>>> * Internal library (particularly oslo) release announcements don't fit
>>>
>>> Open Questions:
>>> * Where do Internal library release announcements go? [-dev or new
>>> -release list or batched inside the weekly newsletter]
>>> * Do SDK releases fit on -announce?
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/11/15 12:00, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get your thoughts about the OpenStack-Announce list.
>>>>
>>>> We describe the list as:
>>>>
>>>> """
>>>> Subscribe to this list to receive important announcements from the
>>>> OpenStack Release Team and OpenStack Security Team.
>>>>
>>>> This is a low-traffic, read-only list.
>>>> """
>>>>
>>>> Up until July 2015, it was used for the following:
>>>> * Community Weekly Newsletter
>>>> * Stable branch release notifications
>>>> * Major (i.e. Six-monthly) release notifications
>>>> * Important security advisories
>>>>
>>>> and had on average 5-10 messages per month.
>>>>
>>>> After July 2015, the following was added:
>>>> * Release notifications for clients and libraries (one email per
>>>> library, includes contributor-focused projects)
>>>>
>>>> resulting in an average of 70-80 messages per month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I no longer consider this volume "low traffic" :)
>>>>
>>>> In addition, I have been recently receiving feedback that users have
>>>> been unsubscribing from or deleting without reading the list's posts.
>>>>
>>>> That isn't good news, given this is supposed to be the place where we
>>>> can make very important announcements and have them read.
>>>>
>>>> One simple suggestion might be to batch the week's client/library
>>>> release notifications into a single email. Another might be to look at
>>>> the audience for the list, what kind of notifications they want, and
>>>> chose the announcements differently.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think we should do to ensure the announce list remains
>>>> useful?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
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