[openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

Sean Dague sean at dague.net
Thu Feb 25 12:47:56 UTC 2016

On 02/25/2016 07:39 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:40:27PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>> Qiming Teng wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Week 1:
>>>   Wednesday-Friday: 3 days Summit.
>>>     * Primarily an event for marketing, sales, CTOs, architects,
>>>       operators, journalists, ...
>>>     * Contributors can decide whether they want to attend this.
>>>   Saturday-Sunday:
>>>     * Social activities: contributors meet-up, hang outs ...
>>> Week 2:
>>>   Monday-Wednesday: 3 days Design Summit
>>>     * Primarily an event for developers.
>>>     * Operators can hold meetups during these days, or join project
>>>       design summits.
>>> If you need to attend both events, you don't need two trips. Scheduling
>>> both events by the end of a release cycle can help gather more
>>> meaningful feedbacks, experiences or lessons from previous releases and
>>> ensure a better plan for the coming release.
>>> If you want to attend just the main Summit or only the Design Summit,
>>> you can plan your trip accordingly.
>> This was an option we considered. The main objection was that we are pretty
>> burnt out and ready to go home when comes Friday on a single-week event, so
>> the prospect of doing two consecutive weeks looked a bit like madness
>> (especially considering ancillary events like upstream training, the board
>> meeting etc. which tend to happen on the weekend before summit already). It
>> felt like a good way to reduce our productivity and not make the most of the
>> limited common time together. Furthermore it doesn't solve the issue of
>> suboptimal timing as described in my original email.
> I'd wager a sizeable number of contributors would outright refuse to attend
> an event for 2 weeks. 6-7 days away from family is already a long time. As
> such, I would certainly never do any event which spanned 2 weeks, even if
> both weeks were relevant to my work.

Agreed. For folks that need to get in time for the board meeting, the
Summit is basically already an 8 day event (counting travel days). I
know I wouldn't do back to back weeks.


Sean Dague

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