[openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers to stable/liberty

Steven Dake (stdake) stdake at cisco.com
Sat Feb 20 16:39:41 UTC 2016


Sam,

I seem to recall Paul was not in favor, so there was not a majority of cores there.  There were 6 core reviewers at the midcycle, and if you only count kolla-core (which at this time I do for policy changes) that means we had a vote of 5.  We have 11 core reviewers, so we need a vote of 6+ for simple majority. I was also sort of -1 because it is an exception, but I do agree the value is warranted.  I believe I expressed at  the midcycle that I was -1 to the idea, atleast until the broader core review team voted.  If I wasn't clear on that, I apologize.

I'll roll with the community on this one unless I have to tie break - then groan :)

That is why a decision was made by the group to take this to the mailing list.

Regards
-steve

From: Sam Yaple <samuel at yaple.net<mailto:samuel at yaple.net>>
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Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 9:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers to stable/liberty

I was under the impression we did have a majority of cores in favor of the idea at the midcycle. But if this is a vote-vote, then I am a very strong +1 as well. This is something operators will absolutely want and and need.

Sam Yaple

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michał Jastrzębski <inc007 at gmail.com<mailto:inc007 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Strong +1 from me. This have multiple benefits:
Easier (aka possible) debugging of networking in running envs (not
having tools like tcpdump at your disposal is a pain) - granted, there
are ways to get this working without thin containers but require fair
amount of docker knowledge.
Docker daemon restart will not break routers - currently with docker
restart container with namespace dies and we lose our routers (they
will migrate using HA, but well, still a networking downtime). This
will no longer be the case so...
Upgrades with no vm downtime whatsoever depends on this one.
If we could deploy liberty code with all these nice stuff, I'd be
happier person;)

Cheers,
Michal

On 20 February 2016 at 07:40, Steven Dake (stdake) <stdake at cisco.com<mailto:stdake at cisco.com>> wrote:
> Just clarifying, this is not a "revote" - there were not enough core
> reviewers in favor of this idea at the Kolla midcycle, so we need to have a
> vote on the mailing list to sort out this policy decision of managing
> stable/liberty.
>
> Regards,
> -steve
>
>
> From: Steven Dake <stdake at cisco.com<mailto:stdake at cisco.com>>
> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 6:28 AM
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers to
> stable/liberty
>
> Folks,
>
> There were not enough core reviewers to pass a majority approval of the
> neutron thin container backport idea, so we separated it out from fixing
> stable/liberty itself.
>
> I am going to keep voting open for *2* weeks this time.  The reason for the
> two weeks is I would like a week of discussion before people just blindly
> vote ;)
>
> Voting begins now and concludes March 4th.  Since this is a policy decision,
> no veto votes are permitted, just a +1 and a  -1.  Abstaining is the same as
> voting -1.
>
>
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