[openstack-dev] It's better to ask forgiveness than permission

Victor Stinner vstinner at redhat.com
Mon Feb 1 13:49:32 UTC 2016

(I changed the title to stop hijacking the Oslo thread.)


Le 30/01/2016 22:25, Julien Danjou a écrit :
 > (...) And it's easier/faster to fix with a larger team than a few.
 > Which mean inclusion. Which mean openness.

While I think that Julien is a little bit rude and his email is stongly 
opinionated, I have to agree with his global idea of openness.

IMHO some groups in OpenStack are too conservative which makes the 
review process slower and slower every day and can easily discourage 
motivated contributors. I understand that changing core parts of a 
project require a long analysis, but it's sad that simple fixes, cleanup 
changes, etc. can sometimes be stuck for many months before being 
abandoned :-/

A side effect is that it became hard to reduce the technical debt in 
some projects, or said differently: the technical debt became high in 
some projects, and no solution was found to reduce it.

I prefer to trust developers. Everyone knows the impact of changes in 
OpenStack. I'm sure that developers understand that they are supposed to 
only modify some parts of a project and need more skills to remove the 
tricky parts of the core.

I'm a strong supporter of "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission".

Hopefully, as dims wrote, each group is free to choose its own internal 
policy for contributions ;-)


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