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Luigi Toscano <ltoscano at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 10 August 2016 10:42:41 CEST Ben Swartzlander wrote:
>> On 08/10/2016 04:33 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote:
>>> So I tried to get into helping with the cinder stable tree for a while,
>>> and while I wasn't very successful (lack of time and an inability to
>>> convince my employer it should be a priority), one thing I did notice it
>>> that much of the breakage seemed to come from outside cinder - many of
>>> the libraries we depend on make backwards incompatible changes by
>>> accident, for example. Would it be possible to have a long-term-support
>>> branch where we pinned the max version of everything for the gate, pips
>>> and devtstack? I'd have thought (and I'm very willing to be corrected)
>>> that would make the stable gate, well, stable, such that it required far
>>> less work to keep it able to run a basic devstack test plus unit tests.
>>>
>>> Does that sound at all sane?
>>
>> A big source of problems IMO is that tempest doesn't have stable
>> branches. We use the master branch of tempest to test stable branches of
>> other projects, and tempest regularly adds new features. This guarantees
>> instability if you rely on tempest anywhere in your gate (and cinder  
>> does).
>
> Orthogonal to the discussion, but: this is not due to the lack of stable
> branch, but that part of the Tempest API are not stable yet. This is being
> addressed right now (in scope for Newton).
> Once the Tempest stable API are used, no breakages should happen.

Well, it’s only partially true. But what happens when you add a new test to  
tempest/master? It gets executed on all branches, and maybe some of them  
are failing it. We can argue that it’s probably a bug revealed, but it  
nevertheless requires attention from stable maintainers to solve.

Ihar