[openstack-dev] Summit Core Party after Austin

Flavio Percoco flavio at redhat.com
Thu Apr 21 18:02:43 UTC 2016


On 21/04/16 13:40 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-04-21 18:22:53 +0200:
>> Michael Krotscheck wrote:
>> > So, HPE is seeking sponsors to continue the core party. The reasons are
>> > varied - internal sponsors have moved to other projects, the Big Tent
>> > has drastically increased the # of cores, and the upcoming summit format
>> > change creates quite a bit of uncertainty on everything surrounding the
>> > summit.
>> >
>> > Furthermore, the existence of the Core party has been... contentious.
>> > Some believe it's exclusionary, others think it's inappropriate, yet
>> > others think it's a good way to thank those of use who agree to be
>> > constantly pestered for code reviews.
>> >
>> > I'm writing this message for two reasons - mostly, to kick off a
>> > discussion on whether the party is worthwhile. Secondly, to signal to
>> > other organizations that this promotional opportunity is available.
>> >
>> > Personally, I appreciate being thanked for my work. I do not necessarily
>> > need to be thanked in this fashion, however as the past venues have been
>> > far more subdued than the Tuesday night events (think cocktail party),
>> > it's a welcome mid-week respite for this overwhelmed little introvert. I
>> > don't want to see it go, but I will understand if it does.
>> >
>> > Some numbers, for those who like them (Thanks to Mark Atwood for
>> > providing them):
>> >
>> > Total repos: 1010
>> > Total approvers: 1085
>> > Repos for official teams: 566
>> > OpenStack repo approvers: 717
>> > Repos under release management: 90
>> > Managed release repo approvers: 281
>>
>> I think it's inappropriate because it gives a wrong incentive to become
>> a core reviewer. Core reviewing should just be a duty you sign up to,
>> not necessarily a way to get into a cool party. It was also a bit
>> exclusive of other types of contributions.
>>
>> Apparently in Austin the group was reduced to only release:managed
>> repositories. This tag is to describe which repositories the release
>> team is comfortable handling. I think it's inappropriate to reuse it to
>> single out a subgroup of cool folks, and if that became a tradition the
>> release team would face pressure from repositories to get the tag that
>> are totally unrelated to what the tag describes.
>
>I didn't realize the tag was being used that way. I agree it's completely
>inappropriate, and I wish someone had asked.
>
>>
>> So.. while I understand the need for calmer parties during the week, I
>> think the general trends is to have less parties and more small group
>> dinners. I would be fine with HPE sponsoring more project team dinners
>> instead :)
>
>That fits my vision of the new event, which is less focused on big
>glitzy events and more on small socializing opportunities.

++

to all the above! I just wanted to agree with this and I don't have much else to
add.

Flavio

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